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The Most Hated Woman in America (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Gary S on Thursday. 7 Replies

Before Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty, before Dawkins or Dennett or Harris or even Hitchens, there was Madalyn Murray O'Hair.  In the midst of an America where Christianity was being flaunted as a defense against the godless communists of the Soviet…Continue

Tags: Frank Zindler, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Madalyn Murray O'Hair

Proud Dad is REALLY Proud Now!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Todd Williams Apr 12. 16 Replies

As some of you may or may not know, my daughter is a television news producer, currently working in Nashville, Tennessee.  Her assignment is the morning news, which means she blasts herself up at umpti-ump in the morning to organize and prepare a…Continue

Tags: Emmy, news, television, daughter, dad

attacking ideas (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 1 Reply

Attacking ideas is a considerable portion of what we as atheists do.  Why attack ideas?  Ideas earn attack when they don't serve people, not just us but those who adopt said ideas, mistakenly thinking that they have value when they don't.  Our…Continue

Tags: ideas, Islam, TheraminTrees

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 40 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

The Playboy Interview: Richard Dawkins

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 28. 16 Replies

I suppose it was the news that Playboy magazine was returning nudes to its pages after a year's hiatus that sufficiently perked my curiosity to check them out again.  I hadn't looked at Playboy since perhaps 2008, when I began to recognize that I…Continue

Tags: Richard Dawkins, Playboy

God's Annual Performance Review (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 19. 6 Replies

I don't know about you guys, but there wasn't a performance review I had in 30 years of field service that I didn't LOATHE.  It seems as though Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, is up for turning the tables on the person you would expect would…Continue

Tags: review, performance, god, American's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

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Comment by Plinius on July 20, 2016 at 10:51pm

We've just had two days like that, Carl, horrible! But still people go to the beach to get skin cancer - I really can't understand that! Today (not 6:00 yet) starts with light clouds, so I hope it will be cooler.

Happy Thursday to all!

Comment by The Flying Atheist on July 20, 2016 at 2:02pm

Well, an excessive heat wave warning has been issued for my area starting tomorrow.  Temperatures will be in the 90's with high humidity and it will feel like between 105 and 115 degrees.  Ugh!  This is the kind of weather I absolutely hate the most.  I'd rather deal with 0-degrees with a foot of snow.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 20, 2016 at 11:22am

Carl and Chris, I agree, job splitting is one option and one that makes sense if the income is enough to sustain a family. Otherwise, a wage-worker would have to have two part-time jobs in order to maintain a home, food, health care costs, trasportation, etc. Two part time jobs present problems for scheduling and transport to and from work. 

Comment by Plinius on July 20, 2016 at 1:09am

And in the end a sensible government could divide the work, welfare money and income evenly among the people....

Comment by The Flying Atheist on July 19, 2016 at 11:16am

Another idea that has been discussed is that many jobs could be divided into two part-time positions.  This would provide more jobs while at the same time provide more free time for those who are working.

Yes, Chris and Joan....lots of questions! 

Comment by Plinius on July 19, 2016 at 5:39am

Same for me, only questions, but I'm glad with your thoughts!

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 19, 2016 at 4:53am

Carl, I value and appreciate you thrashing on these issues. We need this conversation. I have no answers, only questions. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 19, 2016 at 4:05am

I suspect that people with no jobs will not "spend more time with family, to pursue travel, or to explore and partake in artistic abilities or humanitarian endeavors"

There are too many distractions available, i.e. TV, computers used for gaming or watching other people have a life. I can remember when we didn't have TV and the only mechanical thing to pass time was the radio. The adults in my family listened faithfully to the weather report and the price of peas and wheat. Then, they got up from the comfortable chair and raised chickens, grew gardens, made their furniture and clothes, did the laundry over a wash tub and hung wet clothes on the clothesline. They made their beer and wine, played musical instruments, organized community theater, and had a relief society to help people in trouble. 

What will the excess labor force do with their idle time? 

What is fair and just about this arrangement? My kids work hard, don't take vacations, shop carefully for low prices, even as they boycott WalMart and Albertson's. Why should they work so hard?

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 19, 2016 at 3:47am

Carl, I agree with you, absolutely. Robots and technology take over more of the things humans once performed and production jobs will never return to our shores. 

The population grows exponentially now, creating more people to feed but not enough paid labor to sustain families.

Some work for $2.00 a day, and some even live as slaves, caught by values that exploit and manipulate them.

It would be cheaper than our present welfare program. I wonder what will happen to the individual who has no responsibility to one's own sustenance? A lazy person receives a reward and puts no effort into meeting his or her needs. 

If everyone has $1,000 a month just because they are alive, it wouldn't be very long before business would raise prices in order to scoop up as much of that $1,000 a month as possible. What incentive would the excess labor force have that receives pay for doing nothing? What will those people who work for $1,500 a month do? They could easily scale down expenses and stop working. It would be a disincentive. We would be back into the poverty/wealthy situation again. 

OH, I just watched your films and they ask the same questions as I. 

Comment by Ian Mason on July 19, 2016 at 1:19am

Joan, there is no guaranteed basic income in the Scandinavian countries. All unemployment benefits and social security are being eroded one piece at a time. First was a 50% cut for refugees on "integration allowance" with other small changes for the rest of us but we'll also be losing more as time goes by. Norway could afford to be generous to its citizens by declaring a tax-free month per annum for several years but only because of the income from North-sea oil. That won't be happening any more.

A solution? Karl Marx said "socialism or barbarism." I think that Marx's analysis of capitalism is still the best to date but what to do next is another question. Some sort of co-operative economic system based on the common good instead of profit and without exploitation of the world's poor has to be within human capabilities.  We've come so far - let's take the next step.

 

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