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11 "unanswerable" questions for atheists - answered (Aron Ra)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Jun 6. 1 Reply

If you spend any time around YouTube and have any history of looking at atheist material (or even theist material!), you will inevitably run into: "XX Questions Atheists Can't Answer."  These are occasionally followed by: "XX Questions Atheists…Continue

Tags: apologist, answer, questions, unanswerable, Aron Ra

worshipping narcissists (qualiasoup & theramintrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jun 3. 1 Reply

They're all around us: people who perceive the world as revolving around them and will go to considerable lengths to make it so: narcissists.  Such beings have been with humanity, I suspect, since humanity emerged from the gene pool.  Even worse,…Continue

Tags: narcissist, QualiaSoup, TheraminTrees

Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat May 2. 42 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

Tags: singing, lyrics, reclaimed, reclaiming, HumanLight

appropriating morality (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo May 1. 7 Replies

We've all heard the claim: "Human morality comes from god."  And we've all seen for ourselves what Yahweh's "morality" looks like, from condemnations of homosexuality and the treatment of women as chattel to inexplicable sanctions against the eating…Continue

Tags: morality, appropriating, TheraminTrees

Bible Belt Atheist (New York Times)

Started by Loren Miller Apr 19. 0 Replies

The following showed up in my YouTube feed this morning, and I decided to have a look.  Turns out, the New York Times has given us a reasonably even-handed look at a good friend of ours, being one Jerry DeWitt, former bible-thumper and now a pretty…Continue

Tags: Bible Belt, atheist, Jerry DeWitt

How would you respond?

Started by Christina Scribner. Last reply by Christina Scribner Apr 10. 5 Replies

So, this morning, I was at my local coffee shop as I am most weekdays between bus runs. I do the editing on my husband's books so I had my laptop with me. My wallpaper is a picture I found online sometime back of a double helix with the word atheist…Continue

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Comment by Idaho Spud on July 19, 2012 at 9:37am

Perhaps I'm a little hard on teenagers, but after 71 years I'm so very tired of so many of them acting like they know it all.

Personally, I've never been nearly as egotistical as most people I've met, even when I was 17.  I was brainwashed to be sure that Mormonism was true, but still didn't argue with anyone about it.  I've always been a lover of science, and so couldn't understand why someone could be so sure of anything without lots of good evidence to support it (with the exception of Mormonism, of course).  Therefore, I have little patience with someone that claims to be an atheist, and still defends religion.  The religions I'm familiar with do accomplish good things, but In my opinion, the bad things they do far outweigh the good.

I don't know a lot about Asberger's sufferers, but I read that they have normal reasoning abilities, so I don't think his illogic deserves a pass because of his condition.

Comment by Sarah on July 19, 2012 at 8:57am

I have to say, I'm a little put off by the tenor of the comments toward this 17 yo. Is it somehow inherently egotistical to disagree with people, even people who are older and more experienced? And is it somehow against the Atheist handbook to pull back from thinking that religion is the greatest scourge on the planet? (I happen to think it's right up there, but I don't think that view is at all necessary for one to be an atheist.)

Didn't we all think we knew everything at 17? I know I personally had lots of opinions and relished the idea of getting to talk with adults in a more peer fashion, rather than being thought of merely as a kid. Perhaps this kid felt that you weren't giving his views any respect and so reacted more strongly and defensively. Honestly, if someone had come at me with the attitude that I was still just a silly child who would learn and should defer to the greater wisdom of an elder, I probably would have, too.


Not to mention if he has Asperger's, then we should all know that communication isn't his strong suit and should probably give him the benefit of the doubt.

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 19, 2012 at 7:59am

booklover, I agree with everyone, that a 17 year-old has a lot to learn.   That one seems especially egotistical, and I also wouldn't want to talk to him anymore.

sk8eycat, thanks for the excellent quotes.

Steph S., Dr Morris is a little scary.

Comment by dr kellie on July 18, 2012 at 10:11pm

Sorry about your issues, sk8eycat. 

 

I agree with you on the 17 yo.  I didn't really know who I was until I was in my late 20s.  I was too influenced to have my own mind.  It does take time.

Comment by sk8eycat on July 18, 2012 at 9:53pm

Hi, y'all!  I've been off-line about 24 hours...my sister was surfing around yesterday and did something that let a couple of horses in here.  I just got rid of them...by MYSELF!  I'm so relieved, and got such a kick calling my tech friend and telling him "Never mind!" (Actually we thoroughly discussed the results of my last scan, and he said I'm safe.)

Why to people DO that?  Write viruses, worms, etc...I mean.  To steal information?  Because they like to cause damage?  I don't get it.

Steph: I wuvz dat ORNJ kitteh!  Mai favrit flaver!  An hiz cattitude reminz me ob mai own docter.  Dr. BadJokes.

booklover: The kid is way too young to have it all figured out yet.  He probably thinks he does, but he's got a long way to grow. Do you have any good books you can lend him while he's visiting? Dan Barker's Godless is one that I've worn out because I look things up so often, and it's not written in Academish.  Or do you have the DVD of Julia Sweeney's play "Letting Go of God"?  Doing that takes time...most adults who were raised in a religious family usually say it took them from five to ten years to realize they can't believe in a god.  (If you don't have the DVD, maybe your local library does.)

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 18, 2012 at 7:05pm

 booklover, that is an interesting twist, "Found out he is an Atheist." and ..."he disagreed with me totally when I told him my 92 year-old (when he died) grandfathers fav saying was that religion was the scourge of the Earth."

I wonder what part of atheist he doesn't understand? You all shall be having an interesting visit, I am sure. 

Comment by Steph S. on July 18, 2012 at 5:23pm

Cool booklover!

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 18, 2012 at 3:38pm

sk8eycat, Perfect quotes! Re-posting!

Comment by sk8eycat on July 18, 2012 at 2:05pm

@ Tony & Steph:Speaking of talking... "Deep within the heart of every evangelist lies the wreck of a car salesman." H.L. Mencken

You can actually buy a T-shirt with that on it...or other Mencken quotes. 

http://www.aspapparel.com/HL-Mencken-Quote-T-shirts.php

I just found this site, and I think I wanna get the entire collection.  But I LOVE the one about the car salesman.  Jerry Falwell never got rid of that part of his personality.

Comment by Ian Mason on July 18, 2012 at 7:42am

I had a good laugh. Thanks, Tony.

 

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