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A MESSAGE FROM THE QUEEN
Started by Patricia. Last reply by Patricia Jul 13. 9 Replies 1 Like
Hilarious Must Read Letter To The Citizens Of The United States Of America From Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.Published by BhaviniA MESSAGE FROM THE QUEENTo all the citizens of the United States of America from Her Sovereign Majesty Queen…Continue
Consumers do not see this coming
Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Meri Weathers Jul 11. 5 Replies 2 Likes
GRAIN & FOOD PRICES TO SOAR! China Trade, Farmers, Weather, and GSMWhat can I do to be more self-sufficient? 1. grow more of my food,2. eat lower on the food chain,3. find simple, less expensive pleasures, 4. build support community, 5. prepare…Continue
Evangelicals Breaking Up with Jesus (Betty Bowers)
Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat May 28. 10 Replies 3 Likes
Has evangelical Christianity lost sight of Christ? Seems to me that there are a whole lot of evangelical Christians who are presuming to represent Jesus by not representing him or misrepresenting him or – let's be honest here – talking out of their…Continue
Tags: Franklin, Graham, Trump, Jesus, America's Best Christian
How would you respond?
Started by Christina Scribner. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck May 27. 15 Replies 3 Likes
So, this morning, I was at my local coffee shop as I am most weekdays between bus runs. I do the editing on my husband's books so I had my laptop with me. My wallpaper is a picture I found online sometime back of a double helix with the word atheist…Continue
Men who challenge men to stop violence
Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Grinning Cat May 24. 21 Replies 4 Likes
Many men join in the effort to reduce violence against women and children and other men. He speaks of the need to place responsibility on men instead of focusing on women to stop violence. He offers a breath of fresh air, as do so many of the men on…Continue
Water! Access to fresh water declines as populations grow, temperatures rise, immigration increases!
Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Bobby May 15. 7 Replies 1 Like
What are their options? The aquifer that provided a necessary element for successful crops for the past 100 years is predicted to dry up in 20 years. Four generations of farmers in one family may probably not be able to last for the fifth…Continue
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Comment by Chris on August 25, 2011 at 9:38pm
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Comment by Julie Carter on August 25, 2011 at 9:27pm
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Well, if we're complaining about symbols and words of religion where they shouldn't be....I keep getting mad at myself for being addicted to Whataburger's breakfast combos, because they have a big sign in the window that says "One Nation Under God Indivisible." Sigh...
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Comment by alexa penzner on August 25, 2011 at 8:32pm
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that's the way i thought they were going to put it - on the side - if it's standing straight up - that i don't like at all !!!! it's not a monument - it's a statement of religion. i'm amazed they're going to do it that way. i sure wouldn't want to see the d--m thing that way !!!!
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Comment by Natalie A Sera on August 25, 2011 at 8:00pm
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I LOVE your idea, sk8eycat (ailurophiles rule!). If it were placed so, it would be just a fragment of the destruction, and not a religiously preferred symbol.
Rev, I sang in the choir of an Episcopal church for 3 years for anthropological and financial reasons. They were wonderful about not making me wear a cross, because I could not do it and stay honest with myself. I also didn't genuflect in front of the cross. And when the priest did the ritual of splashing water on the congregation to re-enact Jesus' baptism, he looked me in the eye, and said, "Duck, Natalie!". :-) I am not anti-religion, I just don't want it imposed on me in any way, shape or form. I want to be first, a citizen of the world, second, a citizen of the US, and third, a member of my own ethnic group. I welcome the voluntary opportunity to observe and enjoy other people's beliefs and customs, but I want to do that on my own terms, not theirs.
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Comment by sk8eycat on August 25, 2011 at 7:59pm
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Thanks, Rev. You know it would never happen. Christians love to obsess over death and torture, and revere the symbols.
Was it Lenny Bruce (I loved him!) who said that if Jeebus had been killed in the 20th Century, Christians would all be wearing little electric chairs on gold chains?
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Some of the girders I saw (on TV) from the remnants would be the best reminder of how the towers remained, but it doesn't matter anymore. The entire thing has become a myth and religious battle.
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Comment by Rev. Richard Watkins on August 25, 2011 at 7:42pm
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I think that would be an excellent compromise, sk8eycat.
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Hmmm...two pieces of steel that just happen to cross each other at right angles. Maybe instead of standing it in a "t" shape, they should put it on its "side," to look like an "X"....then it would have no religious meaning, and just be a reminder of the devastation.
Maybe?
Of course people would scream....
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It's unfortunate that G.W. Bush called for a Crusade.
That movement continues with The New Apostlic Reformation
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Well I have to clear a couple things up. Like FSM, FCoA is a joke. There is no real established church or rules to abide by...it's simply a playful thumbing-the-nose at other churches. The reason I became ordained was so I could marry some homosexual friends of mine.
As for hiding the cross from public view...I think that's rather counterproductive. Religion should be brought out into daylight and exposed for what it is. We want people to freely discuss and debate religion, not hide it away in private for it to fester and grow stronger. Free criticism of religion should be encouraged and I think bringing religion into the context of terrorism one of the best things for atheism. Additionally, putting the cross in the WTC memorial is not an action meant to represent Christianity over all other religions. It's there as a relic of the devastation and an example of something the people clung to. It's a representation of the event, not a representation of people.
Hiding religion in a dark corner is dangerous. Full-out attacks on religion only make people cling to it tighter. The best weapon against religion is to bring discussion to it, not take it away from discussion.
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