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The myth of religions

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Saturday. 3 Replies

The creation myth of civilizations instructs men to dominate, to conquer, to go forth and multiply. No reasonable person would pay attention to such a god. No hunter-gatherer receives such a senseless message from wise elders.However, that idea…Continue

Tags: masculine, violation, imperative, go forth and multiply,, conquest

Winter Driving, Preparing for the worst

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Feb 1. 2 Replies

Now that we enter the time the Celtics called Imbolc, a pagan celebration of the beginning of spring and season of new life, I ran across this video on preparing for winter driving. It offers reasons for each thing he puts in his vehicles to be safe…Continue

Tags: prepare, driving, winter

A Powerful Message from an old wise teacher :

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Chris Dec 26, 2017. 10 Replies

I received a gift this morning from a virtual friend, Pamela Smith:A Powerful Message from an old wise teacher :" One day an old wise teacher was walking through a village. A very angry and rude young man came up and began insulting him. "You have…Continue

10 Tricks from 46 (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Nov 6, 2017. 3 Replies

Apparently, Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, has been slumming.  That is to say, she's been talking to Mike Pence [gasp!].  It would seem as though Mike has offered some of his not-so-personal tricks of the trade on how to be a 21st century…Continue

Tags: tricks, Mike Pence, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Surreal, I haz it

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Oct 19, 2017. 99 Replies

Surreal, not just found in art.Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on June 26, 2017 at 1:21pm

"Economists have empirically proven five Kondratieff cycles since the late 18th century 

1). The first long cycle was triggered by the invention of the steam engine and fundamental innovations in textile manufacturing (the fly-shuttle loom, the spinning mule, the spinning jenny).

2). The railroad and the Bessemer converter led the economy to the second Kondratieff. It was the great era of big steel."

3). "The third Kondratieff was the first long cycle that was carried by the prac­tical application of scientific knowledge. The discovery of the electro-dyna­mic principle by Werner von Siemens enabled the conversion of mecha­nical energy into electrical energy, and the findings on the composition of matter through quantum physics imparted the knowledge of manipulating material – the foundation of modern chemistry. The third Kondratieff ended with the global economic crisis of the late 1920s and early 1930s. "The Great Depression!"

4). The new upswing, the fourth Kondratieff, came with the automobile and petrochemistry. It marked the height of the industrial society and brought mass transit to the streets and to the air. The fourth Kondratieff drew to a close with the massive crude oil price increases by OPEC in the late 1970s.

5). The fifth Kondratieff began in the early 1950s. Its driving force originated in computer-based information technology. With constantly increasing speed, information technology permeated all areas of society and turned the world into a global village of information. During the fifth Kondratieff, the industrial society changed over into an information society. Since then, economic growth is primarily defined as growth in the information sector. The fifth Kondratieff ended at the turn of this century. At the same time it ended, the sixth Kondratieff cycle began. 

6). The carrier of this new Kondratieff cycle will be health in a holistic sense.  At first glance, this statement may come as a surprise. Can health expenditures, which are economically classified as pure expenses and as something negative that should thus be avoided if possible, take on the role of a locomotive for growth and employment in the future?

"At this point, we should recall the results of modern growth theory. Machi­nery, capital or jobs are only ostensibly the most important sources for economic growth. The main source for economy growth is productivity pro­gress. The sixth Kondra­tieff is carried by an improved productivity in handling health (a more detailed description of the sixth Kondratieff can be found on this homepage).

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 26, 2017 at 1:15pm

Ian, your daughter who encountered Marxism in school has the opportunity to think about options. We know capitalism is unstable. It has frequent recessions and regular depressions. 

"Economists have empirically proven five Kondratieff cycles since the late 18th century."

"There is no uniform progression in the market economy; in fact, upturns and downturns regularly take turns with each other. The short business cycles that last approximately three years are called Kitchin cycles; the medium-term ones lasting between 7 to 11 years are called Juglar cycles. However, there are also long economic cycles that last between 40 to 60 years. They are named Kondratieff cycles after their discoverer Nikolai Kondra­tieff. The triggers for these long waves are groundbreaking inventions that are called basic innovations.

As my former mentor stated, "the ball bearing has been replaced by the computer chip."

~ Ed Lindaman

I recommend you read the entire article. It offers insights into what happens and why. 

In the meantime, I am prepared for The Greatest Depression Yet.

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 26, 2017 at 12:45pm

Daniel, my eldest great-grandson just graduated high school and wants to go into the army. I was horrified! The US army takes our young men and women and sends them off to some country we can't even find on a map and uses them for fodder for the petroleum industry; if war breaks out, our young people already are in the middle of it. 

Your description of your experience makes sense to me. I will talk to him today to let him know I will support his decision. 

If he does enlist, you can expect to read my lament. He knows how I feel and I support his decision. 

Comment by Ian Mason on June 26, 2017 at 12:01pm

Joan, Silkeborg is close to 'Himmelbjerg', Denmark's highest mountain at 150 metres (500 feet). Nothing in Denmark is much above sea level.

Comment by Randall Smith on June 26, 2017 at 10:22am

Joan, I hear you! My children have trouble listening to "their old man". Actually, I don't have to tell them anything--not to do something, etc.--but they know me and how I feel. Then later, "you were right, Dad".

I handed over the check last night (to my farm kids) with all my concerns and suggestions. They actually listened and agreed! I'm still optimistic that they'll turn the corner. From now on, they're going to have to make it on their own. Thanks, all, for your comments.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 26, 2017 at 5:56am

Sorry about the farm problems Randy.  I imagine the youngsters are more stressed about it than you.  Hope to hear good news one of these days.

Comment by Plinius on June 26, 2017 at 4:17am

Joan, I think you're sensible to anticipate on the next crisis, but have you got someone who looks after your Spokane house? 

Comment by Ian Mason on June 26, 2017 at 12:54am

I've had several discussions with my daughter on the state of the world. She encountered Marxism in philosophy classes at high school and thinks he makes sense (base/superstructure model, capitalism as inherently unstable) but believes that nothing can be done. Such is life, put up with it, survive as best you can etc. All talk by us 'oldies' of the 'good old days' when there was solidarity, trade unions that fought for something and optimism that society could be changed for the better is just whinging and whining.

I find working hard to distinguish between accepting the things I cannot change and trying to change the things I cannot accept. These past few years I've been active again in demonstrations, rallies and petitions because I honestly think that society is regressing toward a dog-eat-dog world again.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 25, 2017 at 6:08pm

Ian, Silkeborg, Jutland, Norway, it is beautiful there! So flat! Is it near sea level? 

The photos are inviting: COME TO NORWAY.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 25, 2017 at 5:02pm

Randy, I am sorry to learn of the financial difficulties your kids have and that it puts you in a vulnerable spot. I like your plan to loan them the money, with definite conditions: cut back, save more.  

It is difficult in these days and many farms and businesses will be failing. Our city of Spokane, and also Newport, have so many closed stores, even as new malls go in. Even the doctors' buildings have vacancies.  

Sadly, too many people do know see what is coming, economically.  My daughter told me the other night that she and Larry and their friends just laugh at me because I tell them all indicators are in place for a depression like nothing we have ever seen.  

Under all is the land!

I decided to not sell my house because I know its value will rise in the recovery and all I have to pay are taxes and insurance. They don't think I know what I talk about. They make fun of me even as they are respectful toward me to my face.  

I'll be dead before the things that I expect to happen and they will not make any difference to me, so I agreed to sell.  

They don't realize that now is not the time to be in debt!

Smarty Pants! They know more than I do, they both own their businesses, they both have noticed a downturn in their businesses, they don't see that as a sign.

Oh! Well! the beetles and bacteria will be gnawing away at my bones and my children and their spouses will look back and realize I am not the old woman with wild ideas.  

Randy, you still have years ahead of you. Take care of your interests!

 

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