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Are You a Patriot? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris G 10 hours ago. 22 Replies

You might think that Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, would be stepping outside of her comfort zone in tackling the concept of patriotism.  As it turns out, not only does she have a proper handle on the term and its implications, she also…Continue

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We Don't Want Your (Atheist) Money! (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat on Thursday. 11 Replies

I suppose I've heard stories like this before:Conscientious atheist donates money to worthy cause.Worthy cause initially accepts money.Worthy cause discovers source of donation.Worthy cause rejects donation.Swell, eh?  Well Matt Willbourne of…Continue

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The Ark Encounter: A Less than Grand Opening (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Aug 21. 24 Replies

The day finally arrived.  Ken Ham's Ark Encounter opened on 7 July, 2016 ... to something a bit less than Disney-sized crowds, and more than a couple dissenting voices!  Seth Andrews has gathered a quartet of significant participants in the protest…Continue

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Surreal, I haz it

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Aug 14. 91 Replies

Surreal, not just found in art.Continue

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Wedding Haka - Subtitled & translated

Started by Joan Denoo Aug 13. 0 Replies

I ran across a video of a wedding in which a group of wedding guests celebrated with a performance of a traditional Māori ancestral war dance, called a Haka. It was intended for sons, however, the women have joined in a participation of…Continue

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Onward (Unpaid) Christian Soldiers (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris G Aug 13. 1 Reply

Proselytizing in the military is a dirty little secret most radical christians would rather didn't get out.  Well, never let it be said that America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, was ever a wallflower where a pit bull was needed!  In the following…Continue

Tags: Military Religious Freedom Foundation, MRFF, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

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Comment by Idaho Spud on July 24, 2016 at 8:00am

I'm sure 54°C will kill many people.  Those that can't get enough water, or have to do much physical activity.  Also some of those that don't realize that thirst is not a reliable indicator of need for water.

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 24, 2016 at 7:55am

Ruth, I also "much prefer getting news on the internet over other forms. I can focus on science and other topics of interest, without wasting time on crap like celebrities or trivia."

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 24, 2016 at 5:36am

Ian, Damn! 

"When Barack Obama visited EU headquarters in March, he had stern words in public – and even stronger remarks in private, according to senior diplomats – for Europe's leaders, telling them they had to risk the wrath of their voters and go for fracking and shale gas to help immunise Europe against Russian blackmail.

(emphasis mine)

Obama emphasized, "to help immunize Europe against Russian blackmail."

Obama should have emphasized getting off fossil fuel as fast as possible and developing renewable and sustainable energy sources. 

Well, the next thing is for the public to rise and insist the government make decisions based on science, not on profits!!!

We have got to get noisy, march, lobby like crazy. People will call us names; so what? I have been called every name in the book, and I still rise. I can't do what I did in 1968, but I surely can make noises.

During the 2012 Seattle riots, an old lady became too pushy, and the police maced her. That picture of an old woman, maced, went viral. 

Raimy was her name. I Googled, "Seattle riots old lady maced Raimy" and this is what I find: 

"Seattle Police Pepper Spray 84-Year-Old Activist, Priest, Pregnant Woman, Among Others

BY LEE FANG NOV 16, 2011 9:00 AM"

http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/11/16/369544/seattle-pepper-s...

2012-12-05 Dorli Rainey 

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 24, 2016 at 3:52am

Ruth, I am still staggering over the temperatures of Kuwait. I would not have been aware of these aspects of weather had you not pointed them out to me. Thank you for your excellent research and reporting. 

The thing that concerns me now is the realization that when Earth goes into cold or hot phases, there are abrupt changes, even if there are slow variations until their exponential rise or fall. 

Is this characteristic an example of an asymptote curve?

Comment by Plinius on July 24, 2016 at 2:15am

I think the same, Ian, we're democratic in name only. There are many people here who'd applaud a Nexit, but I'm not at all sure it would help to rid us of the parasites.

Comment by Ian Mason on July 24, 2016 at 12:55am

Thanks, Joan. That pic was taken on a sunny Spring day last year in Pompei.

No, the majority doesn't rule but I think the government is just a tool a lot of the time. Here's some statistics for the EU:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/08/lobbyists-european-pa...

30,000! That's almost an industry in itself. It's also been said that there are about 100 large companies/corporations that decide what happens in Europe. I feel sometimes that we're banging our heads against a brick wall.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 24, 2016 at 12:51am

Ruth, I get my news from the internet too, and I don't own a TV. 

Spud, I used to not eat as many salads as I do now. The difference is I make my salad dressings from scratch using a simple oil and vinegar dressing and lots of herb from my garden. I won't hit you "across the head & shoulders with a wet noodle : )" I do offer the idea. Oh, by the way, I am slowly cleaning the three years of neglect of my garden and I pulled a heaping wheelbarrow full of dill plants. They went into the compost. I thought of you as I pulled them out, remembering your photo of your dill patch. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 24, 2016 at 12:41am

Nicholas Kristof: Government vs. the people

“In the United States, our findings indicate, the majority does not rule. Majorities of the American public actually have little influence over the policies our government adopts.”

~ Martin Gilens of Princeton University and Benjamin I. Page of Northwestern University found that in policymaking, views of ordinary citizens essentially don't matter. 

My two favorite cartoons on this subject:

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 24, 2016 at 12:18am

Ian, first of all, I like your avatar, you look smashing! 

When I was in Europe in the 1980s, the benefits in the Scandinavian countries were so generous, and people in Spokane could not believe the safety net your country provided for all its citizens. I am so very sorry to learn that those benefits eroded and continued to erode to the present. 

That tells me that oil when drawn out of oil deposits, whether on land or at sea, created great wealth and it was shared with the citizens. 

We know there will not be the wealth of oil for very much longer, and we have to make adjustments, but I do not think the working class is the one that has to lose benefits. 

For an individual to have extreme wealth may do good things for the receiver, in the short term. In the long run, a society that allows an extreme gap in wealth between rich and poor to develop has only weak and unsustainable results. The young, the elderly, and the infirm need to have goods and services to survive. If the family can't provide then society has to carry the expense. 

Comment by Plinius on July 23, 2016 at 11:39pm

Another reason never to go to Kuwait! Can you survive at 54C?

 

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