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Bible Belt Atheist (New York Times)

Started by Loren Miller on Thursday. 0 Replies

The following showed up in my YouTube feed this morning, and I decided to have a look.  Turns out, the New York Times has given us a reasonably even-handed look at a good friend of ours, being one Jerry DeWitt, former bible-thumper and now a pretty…Continue

Tags: Bible Belt, atheist, Jerry DeWitt

How would you respond?

Started by Christina Scribner. Last reply by Christina Scribner Apr 10. 5 Replies

So, this morning, I was at my local coffee shop as I am most weekdays between bus runs. I do the editing on my husband's books so I had my laptop with me. My wallpaper is a picture I found online sometime back of a double helix with the word atheist…Continue

The Fake Christian Busybody Show (Andrew Bradley)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Plinius Apr 9. 1 Reply

It seems as though there was a Gay Pride parade in some town somewhere and a Christian commentator, herein known as The Activist Mommy, apparently got her panties so in a bunch about it that she had to fire up her video camera and record a…Continue

Tags: gay, pride, The Activist Mommy, Andrew Bradley, America's Best Christian

America Held Hostage: Day 436 (MisterDeity)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 9. 1 Reply

Now that Sinclair Broadcasting has stated their position regarding fake news and its threat to our democracy, Mister Deity's Brian Dalton has decided to throw his $0.02 worth in as well ... though I don't quite think his presentation was really what…Continue

Tags: fake news, Deity, Mister, Broadcasting, Sinclair

Guns: Both Sides Now (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Christina Scribner Apr 3. 3 Replies

Oh, NO!  The gun debate has gotten so heated that it has Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, TALKING TO HERSELF!  Apparently, one of her has had a stroke or a serious breakdown in cognitive skills, as she does little more than parrot the NRA's…Continue

Tags: NRA, guns, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

how dogma pollutes discourse (qualiasoup & theramintrees)

Started by Loren Miller Apr 3. 0 Replies

"The Lord is our God; the Lord is One." "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father, but by Me." "There is no god but Allah, and Mohamed is his prophet." Assertions, taught as fact, but without any form of corroborative…Continue

Tags: dogma, QualiaSoup, TheraminTrees

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Comment by Thomas Murray on July 14, 2017 at 10:49am

Learn more about the benefits of physical abuse...

Welcome to CDD ( Christian Domestic Discipline)

http://christiandomesticdiscipline.com/

I thought that must be some joke or fake website but:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/spanking-for-jesus-inside-the-unholy-w...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/christian-domestic-discipl...

Comment by Thomas Murray on July 14, 2017 at 10:40am

Ian, That cartoon was funny!

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 14, 2017 at 9:20am

Ian, that's not an inaccurate depiction.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 13, 2017 at 11:36pm

I can testify that the hitting resides in the hitter; nothing makes him or her hit. Some families grow without ever experiencing assault!

Oh! by the way, people caught in homes that use physical violence call the practice, "discipline." No one uses the words assault or violence. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 13, 2017 at 11:29pm

Learning as experience by a baby born into a violent home.

Baby observes father hit mother; observes mother’s pain and embarrassment. Baby feels the slap on the face or a smack on the bottom by mother or father; experiences the pain and embarrassment. 

Baby become part of an extended family and sees Grandfather hit Grandma, Uncles hit Aunts, and the feelings of helpless and hopelessness turn into expectations of seeing and experiencing the assaults. Grandfathers, uncles, and fathers claim they have sovereignty over wives and children. Grandmothers, aunts, and mothers instruct growing child on how to behave so that one can avoid being hit.

Nowhere is there a question about the use of assault as a discipline tool and its consequences!

The child, grown into adulthood, learned well the lessons of how to be a man or a woman. They repeat the patterns of their past or swear to never use assault as a tool of discipline. 

Is this Rationalism or Empiricism? 

As the adult enters the public world and encounters potential mates, or takes on the learned role of male or female, how does his past learning work?  

What triggers a reevaluation of old learnings?

Comment by Ian Mason on July 13, 2017 at 9:17pm

Thomas and Berthold, is this what it's like?

Comment by Ian Mason on July 13, 2017 at 9:16pm

Joan, I see empiricism as 'experience first, understand later.' It's closer to the scientific method of observing and then working out the 'how' and 'why'. Rationalism starts and ends with thinking.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 13, 2017 at 9:04pm

Ian, your response to my discussion with Ruth started me on a search: "'rationalism' vs 'empiricism' debate". 

"Rationalists asserted that, in principle, all knowledge, including scientific knowledge, could be gained through the use of reason alone, they also observed that this was not possible in practice for human beings, except in specific areas such as mathematics."

~ The Basics of Philosophy, Rationalism

"Philosophical empiricists hold no knowledge to be properly inferred or deduced unless it is derived from one's sense-based experience. This view is commonly contrasted with rationalism, which states that knowledge may be derived from reason independently of the senses."

Empiricism philosophy definition

Are you able to word these ideas into understandable concepts? I was never good at this kind of thinking. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 13, 2017 at 7:47pm

Thomas -- I've used a cpap for 7 or 8 years with no problems, and I think I'm pretty majorly claustrophobic. (E.g., they give me a valium when I get an mri.) There are different mask types available. I have the very small "nose pillow" that only goes over your nose and it's never bugged me to use it all night every night.

Comment by Thomas Murray on July 13, 2017 at 7:44pm

Grinning Cat,

You know, it should be called Sleepless Study so it can have broader range of study than just focusing on apnea.

The difficulty with me is physiological  ... when I put the mask on I get claustrophobic which is something I've never experience before then. One of the way I overcome it is wait until I am over tired to care.

 

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