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Degrees of Doubt: The Claims and Credentials of Ravi Zacharias (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris May 17. 1 Reply

Anyone here ever run onto an apologist by the name of Ravi Zacharias?  I've seen his name dropped multiple times on YouTube as supposedly being THE ONE APOLOGIST that no atheist wants to cross swords with, because of his facility with christian…Continue

Tags: Ravi Zacharias, Steve Baughman, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Most Hated Woman in America (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Gary S Apr 19. 7 Replies

Before Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty, before Dawkins or Dennett or Harris or even Hitchens, there was Madalyn Murray O'Hair.  In the midst of an America where Christianity was being flaunted as a defense against the godless communists of the Soviet…Continue

Tags: Frank Zindler, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Madalyn Murray O'Hair

Proud Dad is REALLY Proud Now!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Todd Williams Apr 12. 16 Replies

As some of you may or may not know, my daughter is a television news producer, currently working in Nashville, Tennessee.  Her assignment is the morning news, which means she blasts herself up at umpti-ump in the morning to organize and prepare a…Continue

Tags: Emmy, news, television, daughter, dad

attacking ideas (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 1 Reply

Attacking ideas is a considerable portion of what we as atheists do.  Why attack ideas?  Ideas earn attack when they don't serve people, not just us but those who adopt said ideas, mistakenly thinking that they have value when they don't.  Our…Continue

Tags: ideas, Islam, TheraminTrees

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 40 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

The Playboy Interview: Richard Dawkins

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 28. 16 Replies

I suppose it was the news that Playboy magazine was returning nudes to its pages after a year's hiatus that sufficiently perked my curiosity to check them out again.  I hadn't looked at Playboy since perhaps 2008, when I began to recognize that I…Continue

Tags: Richard Dawkins, Playboy

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Comment by Joan Denoo on April 23, 2016 at 6:17pm
Comment by Joan Denoo on April 23, 2016 at 6:15pm

Bertold, I apologize for my knee-jerk response to the Barbie pictures. 

Comment by Ian Mason on April 23, 2016 at 9:04am

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 23, 2016 at 1:23am

Ian, with you and Daniel, how can I go wrong? I like your statement, "Nihil sine laboure: nothing comes without work."

I will get me a wood burning tool out of the tool shop and make me a sign over the chicken coop with these words. 

I really like those pretty little hens. They provide all the eggs five of my great-grandchildren need or want. I will have a talk with their parents, Michelle and Jared, and express my concern for both the chickens and children. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 23, 2016 at 1:15am

Daniel, as always, your calm, reasonable, intelligent words help to calm my frustration. I focus on #3, as I know I should do that in the first place. My poop really hit the fan when three times this last week I found the chickens without food and water and their nests filled with droppings and eggs laying out in the sun.  I started reading up on proper care of chickens. I bought a bale of straw to line their nests, got backup water and food dishes so I could keep them filled and clean, and bought a pooper scooper to help me clean the nests and ground. A plain old garden trowel just doesn't do the job. I laid claim to the dirty straw to go into my compost heap. 

I started reading up on proper care of chickens. I bought a bale of straw to line their nests, got backup water and food dishes so I could keep them filled and clean, and bought a pooper scooper to help me clean the nests and ground. A plain old garden trowel just doesn't do the job. I laid claim to the dirty straw to go into my compost heap. 

The birds have distinct personalities. One old hen doesn't allow me to enter the coop until she has taken a few pecks at my hand. Another puts up such a noise I don't know if she is mad, glad, sad, or afraid. A pretty little white hen acts like a queen, sitting on her nest in a quiet corner of the hen house. There are no roosters, so she has nothing to come from all her conscientious time and devoted effort. 

I was very hard on my three children. They had to complete their chores before they could be excused to play. I am sure Laura tried to teach her girls these values, she works incredibly hard and makes a good living doing it. 

I feel the girls need this discipline and so do their children. I am an old wicked witch of the West. Well, that is OK. The kids spend a lot of time talking with me and joining me as I tend to the chores. We get along fine, except for chores first then play. 

It will take some time, and I do feel royally pissed off. Thanks, Daniel, for offering a calming influence for me.  

Comment by Ian Mason on April 23, 2016 at 1:05am

Nihil sine laboure: nothing comes without work. Teach your young'uns that, Joan. Whatever there is, someone had to work for it. The myth of an Eden where Adam and Eve could just wander about naked plucking food from trees is just that, a myth. But I'm sure that time will prove a good teacher, even if your words go in one ear and out the other now.

Comment by Daniel W on April 22, 2016 at 9:45pm

Joan, Saw your post and wanted to encourage you!

While I should be the last to give advice, here are some thoughts.

1.  The important thing is that YOU be happy.  Some will learn from your example, some will learn with time, and some will never learn.  But I know that you would not derive happiness from anyone else's expense, so again, the important thing is that you be happy.

2.  I thought the grandmother's job was to piss off her children by spoiling her grandchildren?  (snark)

3.  If they don't do their chores, then can there be a price?  "If you do (this), then your reward is (that).  If you don't, then the reward does not happen.  If someone else does it, then they get the reward.

Again, I should be the last person giving advice, so I will stop there.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 22, 2016 at 9:29pm

I am pissed off. Some of my younger generation seem to think they can play and not work or do chores before playing. This mean old great-grandma just lost her temper. They think all the good things we have just fell from positive thinking! Bull fecal matter!

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 22, 2016 at 9:26pm

Bertold! No! An atheist Barbie is no such thing! She is an interesting and interested young woman, learning from the past and imagining a preferred future for her generation. She has the guts, wisdom, ambition, and perseverance to create a healthy, prosperous, compassionate, empathic, reasonable world that values justice and peace. She is not a money-grabber, nor does she expect to be able to create her world alone. It takes a team to make a healthy family and community. 

Please, please, please do not pass on this image of an atheist woman! Let's create an image in which we can all take pride.

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 22, 2016 at 9:20pm

Ian, your beautiful video of  Elina Garanca and Anna Netrebko duet singing Flower Duet from Delibes' opera Lakme just made my heart sing along with them. If I move my mouth to their words, I pretend I am a great singer. Sadly, even the dogs invite me to stay quiet when I sing my way through the morning.

We have a deluge of rain like I have not seen for a very long time. I wish I had rain barrels out under the rain gutters to sequester some of this precious water.  

 

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