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punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller Sep 6. 0 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 2. 28 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

We Don't Want Your (Atheist) Money! (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 2. 17 Replies

I suppose I've heard stories like this before:Conscientious atheist donates money to worthy cause.Worthy cause initially accepts money.Worthy cause discovers source of donation.Worthy cause rejects donation.Swell, eh?  Well Matt Willbourne of…Continue

Tags: American Baptist Churches Association, Murrow Indian Children's Home, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Sep 2. 3 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Are You a Patriot? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris G Aug 29. 22 Replies

You might think that Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, would be stepping outside of her comfort zone in tackling the concept of patriotism.  As it turns out, not only does she have a proper handle on the term and its implications, she also…Continue

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Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 4, 2015 at 7:56pm

Ian, I was a bit surprised by the conservative outcome of the British election.  Could it be that the British public are just as uninformed and dumb at most of the US population? 

On a bright note, I'm pleased to see a anti-austerity party running the show in Greece.  

Hopefully Europe will not see a swell of conservatives elected in the majority.  

As for the US, I tend to be optimistic (at this point in time) about retaining a to-the-left President.  We had eight years of disastrous conservatism under George Bush and we are coming to the close of eight years of a extremely conservative Congress.  In addition, our Supreme Court has made some very questionable judgements that clearly support the conservative goals. 

I get the feeling that people are just fed up and have many problems with the way Conservatives has made a mess out of everything they touch.  I can only hope that this sentiment is retained and then acted upon in the voting booth.      

Comment by Ian Mason on June 4, 2015 at 2:03pm

To be honest, after the British election I fear that politics in the West is going to take another severe jerk to the right. There's an election coming up in Denmark and the Nationalists are predicted to emerge as the second-largest party.

Love the Asimov quote, GC. He was a very astute man. We could do with more like him.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 4, 2015 at 1:02pm

Yes, more political parties are needed to represent more views.  I like the idea of coalitions working together, but here in the US, if you think about it, our Republican party is divided into several combative factions who can't seem to work together at all.

1.  fiscally conservative who are conservative on social morality issues (the majority, in my opinion)

2.  fiscally conservative who are more liberal on social morality issues (a small group)

3.  Tea Party (a strange mix of Libertarian and Religious Right)

4.  Libertarian (very anti-government and mostly liberal on social morality issues but extremely against government-regulated equality issues)

5.  Religious Right (a small and continually declining group who were once extremely powerful and influential.  Most have drifted over to the Tea Party) 

The lack of support from the Republican party for President Obama is one thing they can all agree upon.  There is no hiding the fact that this definitely has a root cause in racism. People who can't recognize that fact are indeed part of the problem.   I do wonder, if there was a white male Democratic president at this time, if the Republicans would be more willing to work together amongst themselves and with the Democrats.  I would further surmise that if a white male was elected as President in 2008, the Tea Party never would have formed.  Although they are a small fringe group of the Republican Party, they have been successful in grinding our legislative process to a halt.       

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 4, 2015 at 11:58am

Loren, I enjoy The King's Singers a cappella harmony as well. 

Comment by Plinius on June 4, 2015 at 9:39am

Try it by all means! More parties is at least more interesting - coalitions can work very well. Of course no one is really content, but that is nothing new. Allowing very small parties in the senate is not always pleasant, but it works. 

Comment by Grinning Cat on June 4, 2015 at 9:23am

We need to change our voting system in the US! The current system of one vote, plurality winner takes all (no way to express preference or support for more than one candidate) creates plenty of wasted votes, and thus plenty of avoidable opportunity for rigging and gerrymandering. (And spoiler effects -- Nader anyone?) I've read that researchers believe that such "first past the post" systems in fact tend to lead to an entrenched duopoly.

Each voter would still cast one ballot, but on that ballot you could -- depending on the particular system -- rank them by 1st/2nd/3rd/etc. choice, or vote yes or no on each candidate separately, or give each one an independent score (like Olympic judges' voting).

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on June 4, 2015 at 8:11am

Randall - I'm with you in spirit. Sanders is far and away the best candidate out there and I have no doubt he would be a far superior president to anyone in the field. That said, however, because of our pathetic so-called two-party system that's really a one-party system of unscrupulous opportunists, there's no way in hell he'll ever get elected.

Comment by Randall Smith on June 4, 2015 at 7:35am

Now, to change gears. After watching Bernie Sanders (on Rachel Maddow's MSNBC show), I decided he's the man for me--and my money! I gave a small donation for his campaign. Hey, it worked for candidate Obama!

Comment by Randall Smith on June 4, 2015 at 7:31am

Loren, the King Singers rendition brought tears to my eyes. I love the song (and them), and often play it on the piano experimenting with different chords. By the way, I have the Greatest Hits by Billy Joel. What a genious. Thank you, Loren.

Comment by Plinius on June 4, 2015 at 1:47am

Milky Way!

 

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