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Degrees of Doubt: The Claims and Credentials of Ravi Zacharias (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris May 17. 1 Reply

Anyone here ever run onto an apologist by the name of Ravi Zacharias?  I've seen his name dropped multiple times on YouTube as supposedly being THE ONE APOLOGIST that no atheist wants to cross swords with, because of his facility with christian…Continue

Tags: Ravi Zacharias, Steve Baughman, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Most Hated Woman in America (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Gary S Apr 19. 7 Replies

Before Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty, before Dawkins or Dennett or Harris or even Hitchens, there was Madalyn Murray O'Hair.  In the midst of an America where Christianity was being flaunted as a defense against the godless communists of the Soviet…Continue

Tags: Frank Zindler, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Madalyn Murray O'Hair

Proud Dad is REALLY Proud Now!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Todd Williams Apr 12. 16 Replies

As some of you may or may not know, my daughter is a television news producer, currently working in Nashville, Tennessee.  Her assignment is the morning news, which means she blasts herself up at umpti-ump in the morning to organize and prepare a…Continue

Tags: Emmy, news, television, daughter, dad

attacking ideas (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 1 Reply

Attacking ideas is a considerable portion of what we as atheists do.  Why attack ideas?  Ideas earn attack when they don't serve people, not just us but those who adopt said ideas, mistakenly thinking that they have value when they don't.  Our…Continue

Tags: ideas, Islam, TheraminTrees

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 40 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

The Playboy Interview: Richard Dawkins

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 28. 16 Replies

I suppose it was the news that Playboy magazine was returning nudes to its pages after a year's hiatus that sufficiently perked my curiosity to check them out again.  I hadn't looked at Playboy since perhaps 2008, when I began to recognize that I…Continue

Tags: Richard Dawkins, Playboy

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Comment by Plinius on February 6, 2016 at 3:00am

The Green Party is a bit elitist and has lost the contact with common people. Our old socialist party, the Partij van de Arbeid has watered down from red to vague pink. (Red is the socialist colour.) I go for the Socialist Party - I know Americans don't like the word socialist - they are the left wing party with sound ideas that could benefit the 99%. Most of the other parties mouth ideals but do nothing to realize them.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 6, 2016 at 1:40am

Chris, I had no idea there is such a difference in our political groups. No wonder I had a knee jerk reaction when you wrote "liberal" in such negative terms. I thought you had jumped ship from the philosophy I thought you had. Glad we got that straight. 

Is the Green Party a good one for the Netherlands? 

That damned trickle down nonsense brings havoc to the lives of so many people. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 6, 2016 at 12:55am

"Either Theism is true or false. If true, discussion must help to spread its influence; if false, the sooner it ceases to influence human conduct the better for human kind. "

A Plea for Atheism, Charles Bradlaugh , Page 17

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 6, 2016 at 12:35am

"What does Christian Theism teach? That the first man, made perfect by the all-powerful, all-wise, all-good God, was nevertheless imperfect, and by his imperfection brought misery into the world, where the all-good God must have intended misery should never come; that this God made men to share this misery — men whose fault was their being what he made them; that this God begets a son, who is nevertheless his unbegotten self, and that by belief in the birth of God’s eternal son, and in the death of the undying who died as sacrifice to God’s vengeance, men may escape the consequences of the first man’s error. Christian Theism declares that belief alone can save man, and yet recognises the fact that man’s belief results from teaching, by establishing missionary societies to spread the faith. Christian Theism teaches that God, though no respecter of persons, selected as his favorite one nation in preference to all others; that man can do no good of himself or without God’s aid, but yet that each man has a free will; that God is all-powerful, but that few go to heaven, and the majority to hell; that all are to love God, who has predestined from eternity that by far the largest number of human beings are to be burning in hell for ever. Yet the advocates for Theism venture to upbraid those who argue against such a faith."

A Plea for Atheism, Charles Bradlaugh , Page 17

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 6, 2016 at 12:29am

"The more ignorant the Theist, the more numerous his Gods. Belief in God is not a faith founded on reason. Theism is worse than illogical; its teachings are not only without utility, but of itself it has nothing to teach. Separated from Christianity with its almost innumerable sects, from Muhammadanism with its numerous divisions, and separated also from every other preached system, Theism is a will-o’-the-wisp, without reality. Apart from orthodoxy, Theism is the veriest dreamform, without substance or coherence."

A Plea for Atheism, Charles Bradlaugh, page 16

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 6, 2016 at 12:21am

"Every Theist must admit that if a God exists, he could have so convinced all men of the fact of his existence that doubt, disagreement, or disbelief would be impossible. If he could not do this, he would not be omnipotent, or he would not be omniscient — that is, he would not be God. Every Theist must also agree that if a God exists, he would wish all men to have such a clear consciousness of his existence and attributes, that doubt, disagreement, or disbelief on this subject would be impossible. And this, if for no other reason, because that out of doubts and disagreements on religion have too often resulted centuries of persecution, strife, and misery, which a good God would desire to prevent. If God would not desire this, then he is not all-good, that is, he is not God. But as many men have doubts, as a large majority of mankind have disagreements, and as some men have disbeliefs as to God’s existence and attributes, it must follow that God does not exist, or that he is not all-wise, or that he is not all-powerful, or that he is not all-good."

A Plea for Atheism, Charles Bradlaugh

Comment by Plinius on February 6, 2016 at 12:19am

Joan, what is called liberal in the Netherlands is a rightwing party that wants to remove all rules and obstacles for companies, especially the big companies. They still hang on to the ´trickle down´ theory,all the while making sure that needy people won't get one drop of that trickle - if it exists. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 5, 2016 at 11:34pm

"Theism declares that God dispenses health and inflicts disease, and sickness and illness are regarded by the Theists as visitations from an angered Deity, to be borne with meekness and content. Atheism declares that physiological knowledge may pre- serve us from disease by preventing us from infringing the law of health, and that sickness results not as the ordinance of offended Deity, but from ill-ventilated dwellings and workshops, bad and insufficient food, excessive toil, mental suffering, exposure to inclement weather, and the like — all these finding root in poverty, the chief source of crime and disease; that prayers and piety afford no protection against fever, and that if the human being be kept without food he will starve as quickly whether he be Theist or Atheist, theology being no substitute for bread."

~ Charles Bradlaugh, A Plea for Atheism

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 5, 2016 at 8:32pm

I am in a natural period of living when one easily reflects on life, its meaning (none), its purpose (none). I gave time a good strong run, naming and challenging the ethics and morals of centuries of family violence. So many opportunities opened up for me and I danced with them all. My dancing is more of a shuffle these days, but, hey! I am still alive!

This reflection is a cheerful time, by golly, I pulled it off. I raised my children to adulthood and they have developed into fine, decent people. Whew! Some said I couldn't do it! Hot Damn! I did it!

I begin the final chapter now and I could not be happier. 

Carl, all three of my children are now 51 years old. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on February 5, 2016 at 6:46pm

Joan, count me in on liking the Bradlaugh quotes as well.

Sounds like you are very busy these days.  I find it very difficult to start rummaging through old, personal memorabilia.  I sit down and start reminiscing, losing the time and effort I put forth for the initial task. 

I very much like looking at mementos left behind by my relatives from previous generations.  I've held onto some of my own items as well so those who follow me can have a physical reminder and insight of who I was as a person when I was alive. 

I haven't led a "rock star" life, nor have I had an earth-shattering effect on this world, but I've had the privilege and luck to have lived an interesting life.  Perhaps my future, and unknown at this time, relatives will find interest in discovering who I was within my time and place.       

 

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