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11 "unanswerable" questions for atheists - answered (Aron Ra)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Jun 6. 1 Reply

If you spend any time around YouTube and have any history of looking at atheist material (or even theist material!), you will inevitably run into: "XX Questions Atheists Can't Answer."  These are occasionally followed by: "XX Questions Atheists…Continue

Tags: apologist, answer, questions, unanswerable, Aron Ra

worshipping narcissists (qualiasoup & theramintrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jun 3. 1 Reply

They're all around us: people who perceive the world as revolving around them and will go to considerable lengths to make it so: narcissists.  Such beings have been with humanity, I suspect, since humanity emerged from the gene pool.  Even worse,…Continue

Tags: narcissist, QualiaSoup, TheraminTrees

Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat May 2. 42 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

Tags: singing, lyrics, reclaimed, reclaiming, HumanLight

appropriating morality (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo May 1. 7 Replies

We've all heard the claim: "Human morality comes from god."  And we've all seen for ourselves what Yahweh's "morality" looks like, from condemnations of homosexuality and the treatment of women as chattel to inexplicable sanctions against the eating…Continue

Tags: morality, appropriating, TheraminTrees

Bible Belt Atheist (New York Times)

Started by Loren Miller Apr 19. 0 Replies

The following showed up in my YouTube feed this morning, and I decided to have a look.  Turns out, the New York Times has given us a reasonably even-handed look at a good friend of ours, being one Jerry DeWitt, former bible-thumper and now a pretty…Continue

Tags: Bible Belt, atheist, Jerry DeWitt

How would you respond?

Started by Christina Scribner. Last reply by Christina Scribner Apr 10. 5 Replies

So, this morning, I was at my local coffee shop as I am most weekdays between bus runs. I do the editing on my husband's books so I had my laptop with me. My wallpaper is a picture I found online sometime back of a double helix with the word atheist…Continue

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Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on December 29, 2016 at 8:46pm

Articles about the growing income disparity appear at Alternet and such, just not mainstream media which is owned by the wealthy elites sucking it all up.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 29, 2016 at 8:04pm

Carl, you give a perfect description of how little old ladies act and how little young boys respond. Those damned hair stubbles don't seem to be capable of softness, either. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 29, 2016 at 8:01pm

Ian, The shirt is perfect! 

Daniel, I agree, curmudgeons unite!. Also, I love the Gandhi quote. 

Plinius, we need a status symbol for the number of people when each one of us ruffles someone's feathers. Maybe a name tag with one feather for each ruffle.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on December 29, 2016 at 7:53pm

I love all the meanings behind names.  Very interesting.  

We have a few names that keep getting recycled in our family generation after generation. Among them are Carl, James, and Ross.  Ross is actually a surname from my family tree but it has been used as a first and middle name in my family as well. 

I had a great-aunt Violet, which sounds sweet, but I always hated getting kissed by her when I was a kid.  Her kisses were hard, wet smacks, and I could feel the hair stubble on my cheek from her upper lip.  LOL  She was always good to me, though.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 29, 2016 at 7:42pm

My name is Joan Melda Denoo. It was supposed to be Janet Melda Denoo, but my cousin was born 6 weeks before me and she carries the name, Janet. My middle name is after my paternal aunt Melda who was a registered nurse, She delivered me in my maternal grandparent's home. 

I like both names. I even like the name Denoo, although many people attempt to get me by writing Denod, Denog, Denot, and deNoo. The double "oo" seems strange to those not used to the lowlands of northern Europe.

My grandfather Denoo came to the US in the early 1900s from Belgium. Many of my family served King Leopold in the Congo and many African people have the name, Denoo. I make contact with many of them. One day, I hope we can find a common ancestor, but not yet. I encouraged the Denoo families in Belgium that I visited to read Heart of Darkness by Conrad and the review by Chinua Achebe. 

"Conrad projects the image of Africa as "the other world," the antithesis of Europe and therefore of civilization, a place where man's vaunted intelligence and refinement are finally mocked by triumphant beastiality. The book opens on the River Thames, tranquil, resting, peacefully 'at the decline of day after ages of good service done to the race that peopled its banks. 'But the actual story will take place on the River Congo, the very antithesis of the Thames. The River Congo is quite decidedly not a River Emeritus. It has rendered no service and enjoys no old-age pension. We are told that 'Going up that river was like traveling back to the earliest beginnings of the world.'"

Achebe, Chinua. "An Image of Africa: Racism in Conrad's 'Heart of Darkness'" Massachusetts Review. 18. 1977. Rpt.

I remain troubled that my family takes pride in the Belgian/Congo connection and the dreadful things done there by the Belgians under King Leopold II. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on December 29, 2016 at 7:32pm

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 29, 2016 at 6:52pm

OOPPSS, I should have put my comment in Politics ....

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 29, 2016 at 6:46pm

In the 1970s I began to observe a trend in income distribution in the U.S. that revealed a stagnation of income from wage-work and an increase in unearned wealth, creating a wealth gap. I watch the spread grow wider, to the point that others now recognize this growing disparity. Why is it happening and why have we not heard about it in the commercial press? 

As wages stagnate, productivity rises. That increase in productivity raises profits to the owners of wealth and does not trickle down to the owners of labor. 

The answers to stagnating wages are easy, there was a major change in philosophy of income distribution that began with the crushing of labor unions, changing in taxation policies, increasing health care costs, and lowering of education funds. It was a plan that came with slogans that wage-workers also adopted, even as it was against their self-interest. "No new taxes!", the poor "Eat at the Government Trough!", "We can't afford grants and loans to pay for education!", "Take advantage of every crisis!". When Rahm Emanuel made that statement at the beginning of Obama's presidency, I knew working people were in economic trouble. That attitude, coupled with "No new taxes" meant money for war took precedence over money for people. 

Thus, through taxation policies, weakening labor unions, withholding funds from health care and education, gave advantages to those who earned their income from stocks, bonds, investments, and savings. 

Not only the U.S., but other countries suffered a growth of wealth for the top percentile and a stagnation of wages. This came about as poor countries took out loans from WMF and had problems or failed to repay the loans. This economic philosophy in favor throughout those worsening years is called the "Neo-Liberal" strategy. Neo-Liberalism failed! 

Why did this happen?

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What philosophy should take the place of past economic theories? 

Who have the answers to economic policies? 

What will happen under Trump?

Comment by Grinning Cat on December 29, 2016 at 2:06pm

The Social Security Administration publishes statistics about popular baby names in the U.S. in different years and decades.

They also have "Top 5 names in each of the last 100 years", all on a single page.

Parents would do well, I think, to give their kids names that are not unheard-of, and with a normal spelling, so the kids don't have to go through life (or at least a decade or two) explaining it to everyone -- but also considering carefully before giving their kids an extremely common name like (for babies born this year) Emma or Olivia, or Noah or Liam, with a high chance of namesakes in every class or group.

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 29, 2016 at 9:46am

Except mine would have to say 75 year old ....

 

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