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A Powerful Message from an old wise teacher :

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Thomas Murray 2 hours ago. 5 Replies

I received a gift this morning from a virtual friend, Pamela Smith:A Powerful Message from an old wise teacher :" One day an old wise teacher was walking through a village. A very angry and rude young man came up and began insulting him. "You have…Continue

Speak English? YOU FIRST! (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Thomas Murray yesterday. 4 Replies

Honestly, the title to this piece is badly under-representative of the content.  To be far more accurate, what we have here is Mrs. Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, going on a rant.  Before you say it ... Say WHAAAA?  Betty Bowers ranting? …Continue

Tags: America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

A Prayer for Our Nation (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner yesterday. 2 Replies

I'm going to keep this one short and sweet.  Mrs. Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, has seen what is going on with the current occupant of the Oval Office, and my impression is that she is not at all happy with it.  True to her citizenship,…Continue

Tags: prayer, Donald Trump, Oval Office, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Any Babymetal Fans Here?

Started by Bruce Carroll. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 12. 5 Replies

Any Babymetal fans here besides me? I have to ask because 1) I really like Babymetal and 2) Babymetal unknowingly played a role in my journey out of religion.For those who are unfamiliar with Babymetal, here is a link to one of their most popular…Continue

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If you could rid the world of one thing, what would it be?

Started by Idaho Spud. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 11. 30 Replies

Today, I heard Seth Andrews talk about the question, "If you could rid the world of one thing, what would it be?"  My first thought was religion, but after a few seconds I decided it would be irrational or anti-scientific thinking.  That would take…Continue

Tags: anti-scientific, irrational

Ignorance is Bliss: Why Religious People Seem Happier Than the 'Nones'”.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 11. 16 Replies

“Highly Religious Volunteer More, Lie Less, and Claim to Be Happier”~ Houston Chronicle; “Strongly Religious People are Happier than Non-Religious”  ~ Christian Daily."The study determined that 40 percent of highly religious adults—defined as those…Continue

Tags: Nones, happiness, non-religiosity, religiosity, bliss

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Comment by Joan Denoo on February 6, 2016 at 12:21am

"Every Theist must admit that if a God exists, he could have so convinced all men of the fact of his existence that doubt, disagreement, or disbelief would be impossible. If he could not do this, he would not be omnipotent, or he would not be omniscient — that is, he would not be God. Every Theist must also agree that if a God exists, he would wish all men to have such a clear consciousness of his existence and attributes, that doubt, disagreement, or disbelief on this subject would be impossible. And this, if for no other reason, because that out of doubts and disagreements on religion have too often resulted centuries of persecution, strife, and misery, which a good God would desire to prevent. If God would not desire this, then he is not all-good, that is, he is not God. But as many men have doubts, as a large majority of mankind have disagreements, and as some men have disbeliefs as to God’s existence and attributes, it must follow that God does not exist, or that he is not all-wise, or that he is not all-powerful, or that he is not all-good."

A Plea for Atheism, Charles Bradlaugh

Comment by Plinius on February 6, 2016 at 12:19am

Joan, what is called liberal in the Netherlands is a rightwing party that wants to remove all rules and obstacles for companies, especially the big companies. They still hang on to the ´trickle down´ theory,all the while making sure that needy people won't get one drop of that trickle - if it exists. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 5, 2016 at 11:34pm

"Theism declares that God dispenses health and inflicts disease, and sickness and illness are regarded by the Theists as visitations from an angered Deity, to be borne with meekness and content. Atheism declares that physiological knowledge may pre- serve us from disease by preventing us from infringing the law of health, and that sickness results not as the ordinance of offended Deity, but from ill-ventilated dwellings and workshops, bad and insufficient food, excessive toil, mental suffering, exposure to inclement weather, and the like — all these finding root in poverty, the chief source of crime and disease; that prayers and piety afford no protection against fever, and that if the human being be kept without food he will starve as quickly whether he be Theist or Atheist, theology being no substitute for bread."

~ Charles Bradlaugh, A Plea for Atheism

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 5, 2016 at 8:32pm

I am in a natural period of living when one easily reflects on life, its meaning (none), its purpose (none). I gave time a good strong run, naming and challenging the ethics and morals of centuries of family violence. So many opportunities opened up for me and I danced with them all. My dancing is more of a shuffle these days, but, hey! I am still alive!

This reflection is a cheerful time, by golly, I pulled it off. I raised my children to adulthood and they have developed into fine, decent people. Whew! Some said I couldn't do it! Hot Damn! I did it!

I begin the final chapter now and I could not be happier. 

Carl, all three of my children are now 51 years old. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on February 5, 2016 at 6:46pm

Joan, count me in on liking the Bradlaugh quotes as well.

Sounds like you are very busy these days.  I find it very difficult to start rummaging through old, personal memorabilia.  I sit down and start reminiscing, losing the time and effort I put forth for the initial task. 

I very much like looking at mementos left behind by my relatives from previous generations.  I've held onto some of my own items as well so those who follow me can have a physical reminder and insight of who I was as a person when I was alive. 

I haven't led a "rock star" life, nor have I had an earth-shattering effect on this world, but I've had the privilege and luck to have lived an interesting life.  Perhaps my future, and unknown at this time, relatives will find interest in discovering who I was within my time and place.       

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on February 5, 2016 at 5:44pm

I like your Bradlaugh quotes, Joan.

Thanks for sharing you clearing out of 40 years. I admire the way you move on confidently into the future.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 5, 2016 at 5:09pm

Boxes, boxes everywhere, bookcases empty, China stacked, getting ready for packing. We're cleaning out the pantry, refrigerator and freezer. 

Ran across some notes in books that I wrote years ago. Times were different then, the economy was thriving, the family was growing into adulthood and caused me some worry. Silly of me, looking back and realizing they turned out OK. I didn't need to fuss. 

Also ran across the correspondence I had with a psychiatrist at the U of WA when we got the diagnosis of Cary's brain disorder. That started a couple of years of learning how to deal with his behaviors. My job was to train him to be able to manage on his own when he was an adult. He is 51 now and I think he will function just fine with help from sister after I am gone. 

We are looking for a condominium to buy for Cary. We looked at many different options and this seems to be the one that meets everyone's needs. 

Thinking back over these past 40+ years, has been rewarding. I met many challenges and came through them the best I could. I didn't do too badly.  

Now, what do I do with 40+ years of accumulating treasures here and there. There is my book collection that is enormous. Craig wants some of the research papers and my collection of Mexican pots, Laura wants my spice rack so that will go north with me. We have a wall where we can install it. 

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 5, 2016 at 4:48pm

"While the Theist provides future happiness for a scoundrel repentant on his death-bed, Atheism affirms present and certain happiness for the man who does his best to live here so well as to have little cause for repenting hereafter"

~ Charles Bradlaugh, A Plea for Atheism

I like the way this guy writes. 

 

Comment by Ian Mason on February 5, 2016 at 4:03pm

Positive words, Joan and very true.

Auto da fe = act of faith. If that's faith I want no part of it.

I will translate a cheerful poem soon.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 5, 2016 at 3:48pm

“I maintain that thoughtful Atheism affords greater

possibility for human happiness than any system yet based on,

or possible to be founded on, Theism, and that the lives of true

Atheists must be more virtuous — because more human — than

those of the believers in Deity, the humanity of the devout believer

often finding itself neutralised by a faith with which that humanity

is necessarily in constant collision. The devotee piling the faggots

at the auto da fé of a heretic*, and that heretic his son, might notwithstanding be a good father in every other respect (see Deuteronomy xiii, 6-10). Heresy, in the eyes of the believer, is highest criminality, and outweighs all claims of family or affection.

Atheism, properly understood, is no mere disbelief: is in no

wise a cold, barren negative; it is, on the contrary, a hearty, fruitful

affirmation of all truth, and involves the positive assertion of action

of highest humanity.”

~ Charles Bradlaugh, A Plea for Atheism

https://ia600708.us.archive.org/29/items/APleaForAtheism/bradlaugh_...

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