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11 "unanswerable" questions for atheists - answered (Aron Ra)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Jun 6. 1 Reply

If you spend any time around YouTube and have any history of looking at atheist material (or even theist material!), you will inevitably run into: "XX Questions Atheists Can't Answer."  These are occasionally followed by: "XX Questions Atheists…Continue

Tags: apologist, answer, questions, unanswerable, Aron Ra

worshipping narcissists (qualiasoup & theramintrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jun 3. 1 Reply

They're all around us: people who perceive the world as revolving around them and will go to considerable lengths to make it so: narcissists.  Such beings have been with humanity, I suspect, since humanity emerged from the gene pool.  Even worse,…Continue

Tags: narcissist, QualiaSoup, TheraminTrees

Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat May 2. 42 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

Tags: singing, lyrics, reclaimed, reclaiming, HumanLight

appropriating morality (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo May 1. 7 Replies

We've all heard the claim: "Human morality comes from god."  And we've all seen for ourselves what Yahweh's "morality" looks like, from condemnations of homosexuality and the treatment of women as chattel to inexplicable sanctions against the eating…Continue

Tags: morality, appropriating, TheraminTrees

Bible Belt Atheist (New York Times)

Started by Loren Miller Apr 19. 0 Replies

The following showed up in my YouTube feed this morning, and I decided to have a look.  Turns out, the New York Times has given us a reasonably even-handed look at a good friend of ours, being one Jerry DeWitt, former bible-thumper and now a pretty…Continue

Tags: Bible Belt, atheist, Jerry DeWitt

How would you respond?

Started by Christina Scribner. Last reply by Christina Scribner Apr 10. 5 Replies

So, this morning, I was at my local coffee shop as I am most weekdays between bus runs. I do the editing on my husband's books so I had my laptop with me. My wallpaper is a picture I found online sometime back of a double helix with the word atheist…Continue

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Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on November 16, 2016 at 9:28pm

Joan, I liked this new imperative the best.

"Crucify myself daily in imitation of the crucified christ," to Fuck you!

My thought for today is a quote:

The real contest isn’t between Democrats and Republicans or Clinton and Trump, but between “human beings and physics,” and physics “is not prone to compromise.”

Bill McKibben

I'm still in a funk, wearing black. Mildly depressed and angry at the cheating, bigotry, and willful ignorance in the US.

image source (text mine)

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 16, 2016 at 5:02pm

such was his love, 

he folded her 

a field of flowers, 

cascading as far 

as they could see

and when she understood

what he had done

she wept flood of tears

to fill the lakes

and make the rivers run 

so their blooms 

would never cease. 

~ the mumbling hermit 

aka David Thomas 

@THE_MUMBLING_HERMIT

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 16, 2016 at 4:03pm

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap161113.html

Super Moon vs. Micro Moon

So very many people have been born and died; The moons and stars reveal a bigger picture of what it means to be alive today. We live such short lives and we have only one life to live. None of this nonsense about rebirth or reincarnation.
We are the lucky one, we were born and we are alive. We are part of this magnificent universe and we have something to say and do. Does anyone know what that is? No, not even parents. We give birth to the next generation and they evolve into something full-of -wonder. 

Sometimes loving is painful; others it is joyful. A person knows one because of the other. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 16, 2016 at 3:47pm

Ian, yes, in some way I do have serenity while I have more determination to work the issues that matter to me. 

* Early detection of cancer, 

* Permaculture,

* Peaceful negotiations training,

* Restoration of war-torn peoples and countries.

If we don't want refugees, we had better work to improve living conditions in peoples' homelands. 

On the other hand, there is a burning coal were my heart used to be.I don't know how one recovered from the death of a child. 

Comment by Ian Mason on November 16, 2016 at 3:13pm

Randall, 'lovely' is not old-fashioned in England and is a word I'm fond of.

Glad to hear the good news, Carl. Keep up the good work. Thanks for showing the alternative to housework.

Sorry to hear about your back, Chris. I think the Danish expression for that is 'witch-shot' (hekseskud). I had one of those a few years ago and it was very uncomfortable.

Joan, you seem to have reached serenity and doing so without praying or accepting bullshit. I take my hat off to you.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 16, 2016 at 2:47pm

Randy, your daughters have a special father. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 16, 2016 at 2:41pm

Christ, sorry to learn of your lumbago. 

I don't work that way anymore, not because I am wise, but because my body hurts too much. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 16, 2016 at 2:30pm

Yes, Carl, smudging is as effective as praying cleaning a house and many other chores. It is not the physical exercises that did the trick for me, it was using tools t change my attitudes. Once I examine the old, learned attitudes, beliefs and customs, and learned healthier ones, I was free of internalized imperatives.

"Love your husband to the lord," to I am worthy of respect and love.

"Turn the other cheek," to I only have two cheeks and they are not for hitting.

"Crucify myself daily in imitation of the crucified christ," to Fuck you!

Sounds easy and healthy? Yes and no.

anyway, setting limits, refusing to be assaulted, standing up or myself, were beliefs well worth developing. 

So, any of you lads and ladies who suffer under the boot of an authoritarian personality, run, don't walk, to the nearest exit and create a life worth living. 

Comment by Plinius on November 16, 2016 at 1:29pm

Congrats Carl! And you're right, bad news must be taken in moderate doses.

I had an overload of work, tried to finish everything in a short time and was rewarded an attack of lumbago. That will teach me! But today I went to work again and had everyone laughing with my stiff movements.  

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 16, 2016 at 1:11pm

Glad you got a good report, Carl.

Also, thanks for keeping us abreast of proper sage smudging technique! Just looking at the pic zapped away all my negative energy. (I'll be sure to contact my physician if that condition persists for more than four hours.)

 

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