Hang With Friends

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Issues Atheist, Feminist, GLBTQ, Climate Change

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by BenGee on Saturday. 3 Replies

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The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Oct 20. 15 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 17. 2 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

A moment to relax and see the Earth from space; some how this comforts me.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev Oct 16. 3 Replies

All the squabbles and struggles that I have do not compare with those of some others on this great planet. There are no boundary lines, no political arguments, no up or no down. What is, is. For right now, the scenes offer tranquility. Just the…Continue

Tags: and, wonder, awe, of, space

His Dark Materials and the Catholic Church

Started by Tonya R. Wheeler. Last reply by Plinius Oct 16. 27 Replies

I recently watched the movie, "The Golden Compass" and since I could not find the sequels, I read the books. I enjoyed them, and I will be reading the first one, Northern Lights, starting tomorrow, since it just arrived via inter-library…Continue

Tags: Fantasy, Catholic, Religion, Atheist, Pullman

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 29. 39 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

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Comment by Randall Smith on September 5, 2016 at 10:00am
I'm so sorry, Daniel. "Been there, done that". Never easy. I actually accidently ran over my old cat backing up.
It was just a year ago (Sept 12) I had to tell the doctors to pull the plug on my dying father. It had to be done. (I went into shock.)
Good luck on making a decision.
Comment by Idaho Spud on September 5, 2016 at 5:36am

Shedding many tears for you and your friend.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 5, 2016 at 5:35am

Daniel, I feel for your quandary, and the soon to be loss of your best friend.

Comment by Plinius on September 5, 2016 at 4:04am

I know you'll do the best for your friends, Daniel! You sound as if you need no convincing that it's time to put them to sleep, but it's very hard to take the decision when your friends are in a slow decline. My experience with all my cats and what I've seen with other pet owners is that the last trip to the vet is almost always very late, because the owner can't decide. That doesn't make it easier for you.  

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 5, 2016 at 1:19am

Daniel, I am sorry you face this quandary. Charlie, your companion for so very long continues to give you comfort, even as you want what is best for him. You have gone through many changes these past three years. Thankfully, you are able to spend time with him that you could not before you retired. Each moment becomes a treasure. Loving him tenderly gives him the greatest gift of all.  

Comment by Ian Mason on September 5, 2016 at 12:20am

Sharp comedy, Chris. Very precise.

Daniel, my brother and his wife have been through the same experience this year when their dog had the same problems. Taking the decision hurt them but they couldn't bear seeing a loved pet suffering so much either.

Comment by Qiana-Maieev on September 4, 2016 at 11:04pm

I think you know its time, Daniel.

Comment by Donald L. Engel on September 4, 2016 at 10:54pm

Daniel, it sounds to me like it's way past time to put the dogs down.  14 and 15 makes them really old dogs.  And it sounds like they both have arthritis, and maybe just a little dementia?  Or even Alzheimer's?  If they are in that much pain, and you make them walk 4 or 6 blocks they are probably looking forward to euthanasia.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on September 4, 2016 at 10:28pm

Hello Friends,

Old Daniel has a dilemma on his hands.  It relates to his dog, and to his dog's dog.

Charlie is my dog.  He's 15 years old.  Charlie is nearly blind, falls down frequently.  He can walk 4 blocks, slowly, some days 6 bocks but it's very slow.  He still appreciates a treat.  He can climb a flight of stairs, but sometimes falls on the stairs, and it takes time and looks painful.  HIs gait looks painful.  A med helps a little with that.  He no longer hears much, and has gone from instantly running to my side when called, to wandering around looking lost.

Baugou was a rescue, who we got to keep Charlie company.  He's never been interactive or bright, but he did his job as Charlie's dog.  Baigou is 14.  Baigou has always been lazy, but now I have to pull him up to get him outside.  He can also walk 4 blocks if urged, and we do daily.

Both are incontinent now, after a lifetime of no accidents.


Baigou.  He always looks dead, but is arousable with some effort and patience.

I want to do the right thing by my dogs.  I don't want to make them suffer needlessly.  I don't want to put them down just because it makes me suffer to see them old and slow..  I don't anthropomorphise, I think.  I will find it very hard to bear being without Charlie, but it's going to happen unless I have a fatal stroke or something soon.  He's my best friend by far, and feels like the only friend I have, here by my side.

I think a lot of people are age-phobic, and I wonder if they euthanize their pets for being old, thinking that old=suffering=bad.   Some suffering is OK - I suffer too - but I'm struggling with how to decide when to have them euthanized.  i don't want to keep them going selfishly because it hurts me to let them go.   I don't think I will just wake up and they've died.  That would be less hard, but it's not how this is looking.

Ning is in China for 2 weeks.  He's not attached like I am.  It will be up to me.

This is subjective, but I score Charlie at about 16 on this test.

 I think prpbably when Ning comes back I  need to tell him it's time to call it time. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 4, 2016 at 9:00am

Some of the things I like about my new computer are:

1.  The word processor is much easier to access.

2.  The old computer weighed 20 pounds, but my new one weighs only 2.8 pounds.  The TV/monitor weighs only 7 pounds, making a total of 9.8 pounds, less than half the weight of the old one.

3.  The old computer used about 50 watts of power, but the new one uses about 5 watts.  The TV/monitor uses 18 watts, bringing the total to 23 watts.  Less than half of my old computer.

I'm sure there will be other things I like better.


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