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An AN member passed away

Started by Deidre. Last reply by Deidre Aug 18. 4 Replies

Went into the chat room last Friday night, for the first time in a while, and learned that Mequa passed away. I had been good friends with him for a time, but we had differences and stopped talking back in the spring of this year. I knew however,…Continue

A Parable by Mrs. Betty Bowers

Started by Loren Miller Aug 17. 0 Replies

Betty Bowers is becoming SO GOOD at delivering as America's Best Christian, she now does 30-second parables!  (Okay, 32 seconds!  Picky, picky!) Have You Had YOUR Betty Today?Continue

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Goodwill to Few Men (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Michael Penn Aug 16. 8 Replies

Think Goodwill Industries does well by the poor?  Fact is, they do WAY BETTER for themselves, to the point where America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, thinks they're ripping off the christian playbook a bit too well!  Have a look for yourself:…Continue

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Steven Weinberg on his anti-theism

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller Aug 2. 4 Replies

I like the sound of Steven Weinberg's voice. He has a calming impact on me as I rush to get my home of 41 years ready to sell and plan and put into motion the new garden at my daughter's home. My home is full o empty boxed quickly filling with the…Continue

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losing faith (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller Jul 5. 0 Replies

TheraminTrees has recently begun producing a new series of YouTube videos, which added to a wonderful library of earlier observations regarding his experience of religion. Good as all those pieces are, I personally think they pale against this…Continue

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Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 28, 2014 at 10:03pm

Felaine, I found this online copy of Ingersoll's Some Mistakes of Moses.  Thanks for the recommendation.

https://archive.org/details/somemistakesmose00ingeuoft

Comment by sk8eycat on June 28, 2014 at 4:41pm

No, my Flying Friend, I don't have Susan Jacoby's book on American Freethought; I have a very battered old copy of the Orvin Larsen biography of Ingersoll, American Infidel.  It is still considered the best, most thoroughly researched (and footnoted), of all the biographies of the Great Agnostic of the 19th Century.

I have another one of Jacoby's books...something about "American Unreason;" I haven't been able to finish it...it's so depressing.

I doubt that Ingersoll would be able to hold an audience for 2+ hours today...our attention spans are much more limited and conditioned to the constant babble of sound bites and one-liners, and the constant need to get wherever we are going as quickly as possible (crammed into seats designed for skeletons), whether it's good for the environment and our psyches or not.

Sigh.  Off I go on another hobby-horse.

George Carlin was off to a good start, but his audiences were smaller (not counting his few HBO appearances), and he got off to a late start on his criticism of religion.  At least we have his recordings.... 

Lenny Bruce also did a short bit called "Religions Incorporated" that touched off a small firestorm here in SoCal, but it was about a local issue, and probably meant nothing to anyone outside of the Los Angeles area. (It was about the land that Dodger Stadium still occupies today...the JWs wanted it for a cemetery.)

So there have been short bursts of iconoclasm, but nothing as cogent and lasting as Ingersoll's 30-year career touring the contiguous US...even...or especially...in the buybull belt.  People hungered for his views on the absurdities of both testaments.  He was scathing about the addition of hell which was the only original contribution of xianity.

I could go on and on, but read Jacoby, and then try to find a (used) copy of American Infidel.  You can buy a new copy from the FFRF bookstore, but I prefer bargain-hunting at Half.com.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 28, 2014 at 2:12pm

Felaine, you must have forgotten about the ever-important and obviously true phrase, "With God, all things are possible." 

BTW, I have Susan Jacoby's book The Great Agnostic, Robert Ingersoll and American Freethought here in my pile of books waiting to be read.  It came highly recommended.  Have you read it?

Comment by sk8eycat on June 28, 2014 at 12:14pm

Mindy, whoever created that meme for Cheezburger should have phrased it "ILLITERATE tribal goat herders."  Because they were.

150 years ago Robert Ingersoll (and others) pointed out that Moses could not possibly have written the Pentateuch because, at the time of the non-exodus, the Hebrews had no written language.  So the fabled stone tablets of the 10 Demands would have been unreadable, among other things.

I keep mentioning Ingersoll in here because he was a phenomenon, considered by many (including his enemies) as the greatest orator at a time when that was considered a high art, not just for what he said, but the way that he said it.  People hung from girders and jammed SRO sections of large venues to hear him speak for 2 hours or more on subjects that are still considered (by some) as shocking.

"Some Mistakes of Moses" is one of his best, most popular lectures, and it's available in trade paperback as a separate book.  Well worth reading, and keeping.  In it he shreds, slices, and dices the first 5 books of the buybull; good stuff to have on hand when confronted by fundamentalists of any persuasion.  Or just for laughs.

He was an iconoclast, but he was also very much the gentleman.  We need him today.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 28, 2014 at 8:58am

Mindy, your post didn't come onto my wall, but the link was in the incoming mail. Perfect statement! I am reposting. Thanks. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 27, 2014 at 12:32pm

Randall, yes! and he was bold, not afraid to take risks, refused to submit to intimidation. My worst enemies in my fight against family violence was and is my family. They want me to remain silent. Get over it, they say, and move on. The problem is, too many men and women submit to the imperative that men should dominate ... women and nature. 

Well, you and I know where that gets us. We need to be spokespeople for those too timid or too indoctrinated to face the truth of human-caused climate change, oppression of women, domination by wealth in our political arena as well as our economic and beliefs domains. 

Comment by Randall Smith on June 27, 2014 at 7:06am

Ol' Theo (he didn't like being called Teddy) was a Democrat in Republican clothes. He was one of my presidential heroes. He could certainly write!

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 26, 2014 at 8:55pm

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." 

~ Theodore Roosevelt, The man in the arena, excerpt from the speech “Citizenship in a Republic”, delivered at the Sorbonne, in Paris, France on 23 April 12010.  

Comment by k.h. ky on June 26, 2014 at 3:29pm

The battle against climate change reminds me of the battle against leaded gasoline.  It took years to get it changed but once it was started it was changed rather fast.

Let's hope the same with happens with climate change.  

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 26, 2014 at 7:53am

Patricia, I do value your input and appreciate your sharing. 

 

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