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Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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11 "unanswerable" questions for atheists - answered (Aron Ra)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Jun 6. 1 Reply

If you spend any time around YouTube and have any history of looking at atheist material (or even theist material!), you will inevitably run into: "XX Questions Atheists Can't Answer."  These are occasionally followed by: "XX Questions Atheists…Continue

Tags: apologist, answer, questions, unanswerable, Aron Ra

worshipping narcissists (qualiasoup & theramintrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jun 3. 1 Reply

They're all around us: people who perceive the world as revolving around them and will go to considerable lengths to make it so: narcissists.  Such beings have been with humanity, I suspect, since humanity emerged from the gene pool.  Even worse,…Continue

Tags: narcissist, QualiaSoup, TheraminTrees

Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat May 2. 42 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

Tags: singing, lyrics, reclaimed, reclaiming, HumanLight

appropriating morality (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo May 1. 7 Replies

We've all heard the claim: "Human morality comes from god."  And we've all seen for ourselves what Yahweh's "morality" looks like, from condemnations of homosexuality and the treatment of women as chattel to inexplicable sanctions against the eating…Continue

Tags: morality, appropriating, TheraminTrees

Bible Belt Atheist (New York Times)

Started by Loren Miller Apr 19. 0 Replies

The following showed up in my YouTube feed this morning, and I decided to have a look.  Turns out, the New York Times has given us a reasonably even-handed look at a good friend of ours, being one Jerry DeWitt, former bible-thumper and now a pretty…Continue

Tags: Bible Belt, atheist, Jerry DeWitt

How would you respond?

Started by Christina Scribner. Last reply by Christina Scribner Apr 10. 5 Replies

So, this morning, I was at my local coffee shop as I am most weekdays between bus runs. I do the editing on my husband's books so I had my laptop with me. My wallpaper is a picture I found online sometime back of a double helix with the word atheist…Continue

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Comment by Plinius on July 24, 2016 at 2:15am

I think the same, Ian, we're democratic in name only. There are many people here who'd applaud a Nexit, but I'm not at all sure it would help to rid us of the parasites.

Comment by Ian Mason on July 24, 2016 at 12:55am

Thanks, Joan. That pic was taken on a sunny Spring day last year in Pompei.

No, the majority doesn't rule but I think the government is just a tool a lot of the time. Here's some statistics for the EU:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/08/lobbyists-european-pa...

30,000! That's almost an industry in itself. It's also been said that there are about 100 large companies/corporations that decide what happens in Europe. I feel sometimes that we're banging our heads against a brick wall.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 24, 2016 at 12:51am

Ruth, I get my news from the internet too, and I don't own a TV. 

Spud, I used to not eat as many salads as I do now. The difference is I make my salad dressings from scratch using a simple oil and vinegar dressing and lots of herb from my garden. I won't hit you "across the head & shoulders with a wet noodle : )" I do offer the idea. Oh, by the way, I am slowly cleaning the three years of neglect of my garden and I pulled a heaping wheelbarrow full of dill plants. They went into the compost. I thought of you as I pulled them out, remembering your photo of your dill patch. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 24, 2016 at 12:41am

Nicholas Kristof: Government vs. the people

“In the United States, our findings indicate, the majority does not rule. Majorities of the American public actually have little influence over the policies our government adopts.”

~ Martin Gilens of Princeton University and Benjamin I. Page of Northwestern University found that in policymaking, views of ordinary citizens essentially don't matter. 

My two favorite cartoons on this subject:

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 24, 2016 at 12:18am

Ian, first of all, I like your avatar, you look smashing! 

When I was in Europe in the 1980s, the benefits in the Scandinavian countries were so generous, and people in Spokane could not believe the safety net your country provided for all its citizens. I am so very sorry to learn that those benefits eroded and continued to erode to the present. 

That tells me that oil when drawn out of oil deposits, whether on land or at sea, created great wealth and it was shared with the citizens. 

We know there will not be the wealth of oil for very much longer, and we have to make adjustments, but I do not think the working class is the one that has to lose benefits. 

For an individual to have extreme wealth may do good things for the receiver, in the short term. In the long run, a society that allows an extreme gap in wealth between rich and poor to develop has only weak and unsustainable results. The young, the elderly, and the infirm need to have goods and services to survive. If the family can't provide then society has to carry the expense. 

Comment by Plinius on July 23, 2016 at 11:39pm

Another reason never to go to Kuwait! Can you survive at 54C?

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on July 23, 2016 at 11:11pm

Thanks, Randall, for reading my environment news. Joan, I much prefer getting news on the internet over other forms. I can focus on science and other topics of interest, without wasting time on crap like celebrities or trivia. I've come to appreciate having you guys to share bits of news I find particularly interesting.

Good point about avoiding unwanted attention with your real name, Plinius.

Heat index of 106°/ k.h. ky! Well, at least you don't live in Kuwait, where they just set a new record. Kuwait swelters in record-breaking 54C heat - the highest temperatu...

Comment by kathy: ky on July 23, 2016 at 12:32pm
Chris, I did the same.
Comment by Plinius on July 23, 2016 at 12:49am

Joan and Spud, there are so many people who are called Chris, I feel that my first name is safe enough. I just don't want you to use my family name. If you google your own first name and family name you can see how much you stand out. I tried that after some unpleasant attention, so I changed my name.

Comment by kathy: ky on July 22, 2016 at 6:30pm
Hot but overcast all day. Heat index 106. Humidity to match. Like Carl I prefer cold weather.
 

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