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Men who challenge men to stop violence

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Grinning Cat 8 hours ago. 17 Replies

Many men join in the effort to reduce violence against women and children and other men. He speaks of the need to place responsibility on men instead of focusing on women to stop violence. He offers a breath of fresh air, as do so many of the men on…Continue

Surreal, I haz it

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on Sunday. 83 Replies

Surreal, not just found in art.Continue

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Such Lyrics!

Started by Donatien Alphonse François. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Friday. 8 Replies

Hello Friends,I was ruminating a bit today on my sixty-some years existence. My mind went back to teenage years when I first figured out religion is not only obnoxiously loud, but also nothing I wanted anything to do with. Truly. I knew by age 15…Continue

Atheist Pig STRIKES AGAIN!!!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller May 18. 2 Replies

There's no getting around it, Atheist Pig is fast becoming my fave secular comic, and as evidence, I refer you to the following.  Jesus and Mo had better watch their respective asses, 'cuz they got a porker coming up on the outside, and I'm pretty…Continue

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The Burial Waltz

Started by Donatien Alphonse François. Last reply by Donatien Alphonse François Apr 26. 4 Replies

Hi everyone,It was almost a half-century ago, at age 15 or so, that I encountered one of the more important influences in my life: a crazy group of poets/musicians who called themselves The Fugs.They had a huge impact on me in that, though raised in…Continue

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Comment by The Flying Atheist on August 14, 2014 at 7:46am

Randall, in all honesty I would just let it slide.  Yes, it is obnoxious to me as well, but it is their prerogative to run their business under those principles.  It is also our prerogative not to purchase their products. 

We need to pick our battles, and I don't think this is one of them.  It would be different if the way they ran their company had a negative impact on their employees, such as with Hobby Lobby.  Just my 2-cents. 

Comment by Randall Smith on August 14, 2014 at 7:28am

While walking the dog last evening, I picked up a tossed cardboard "Hunk of Pizza" box (to carry home and deposit accordingly). I noticed a message on the box: "Our Guiding Principles; Place God First in All We Do, Trust God to Meet Our Needs". I was, and still am, quite disgusted and appalled. I'm thinking about emailing them some words of disapproval. Any suggestions on what to tell them (Hunt Brothers Pizza)?

Comment by The Flying Atheist on August 14, 2014 at 3:14am

Yes, Patricia, Dave Allen. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on August 14, 2014 at 1:20am

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 14, 2014 at 12:53am

Patricia, thanks for alerting me to the other two videos. I just watched them. Women and children need laws written with their flourishing in mind and law enforcement to make sure that all those violations are prosecuted. 

It seems unlikely the women who say they are happy with the situation and have no complaints have no idea of other options that might exist for them. If they are adults, they may have a right to live in a polygamous marriage if it is legal, but I can't see how it would benefit society. 

There are two problems I see, 

Gender disparity concern, first, is several females sharing one male. Females are treated as baby factories.
Second, is not enough females for males. China's one child rule resulted in the aborting or killing of female babies, leaving a surplus of males. 

"Future challenges for China will be the gender disparity. According to the 2010 census, males account for 51.27% of China's 1.34 billion people, while females made up 48.73% of the total. The sex ratio (the number of males for each female in a population) at birth was 118.06 boys to every 100 girls (54.14%) in 2010, higher than the 116.86 (53.89%) of 2000, but 0.53 points lower than the ratio of 118.59 (54.25%) in 2005.[5] In most western countries the sex ratio at birth is around 105 boys to 100 girls (51.22%). At the moment there are about 9 million more boys than girls in China."

Gender disparity concern

this is about a third of the way into the article. 

Chinese Women by Age Cohorts

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 13, 2014 at 10:15pm

Patricia, the video came through nicely. I can't even imagine how this case could take so long. What about the safety and health of the girls? Are there any reports on them. Did they have children? What was the age of the youngest mother? He claimed to only hold hands and I find that highly unlikely. One of the girls involved between the two families was 12 years old, if I remember correctly.

Just imagine them taking underage girls and marrying them off. The video revealed happy children and women. I wonder about their physical and mental health?  

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 13, 2014 at 9:52pm

Bertold, here is my playlist of Phil Zuckerman. Enjoy!

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 13, 2014 at 9:47pm

Carl, I kept watching to see how they were going to lower that big piece of what looked like concrete. I did hear a curse word, can't remember what it was, but it was not a welcome sound coming from one of them. Also, the fellow with the torch touched a hot spot on the tool. He would have to have good reflex control. I would throw up my hands and lose my balance.

I wonder if their wives and children know the risks these two men take to put food on their table and roofs over their heads.  

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 13, 2014 at 9:41pm

Patricia, I wonder how those young girls are doing? Are there children involved?

Polygamy charges approved against leaders of religious sect in Boun...

Polygamist Winston Blackmore

Photograph by: Jason Payne, Vancouver Sun

Looks like anyone grandpa, kind, gentle, responsible, honorable, NOT! 

"Canada’s most notorious polygamist, Winston Blackmore, was charged with one count of polygamy. Listed in the indictment against the former bishop are the names of 24 women who were in “a form of polygamy or practised a kind of conjugal union.”

"Among the women listed, 10 of them were under the age of 18. However, special prosecutor Peter Wilson did not approve any criminal charges for sexual exploitation."

Why not? 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on August 13, 2014 at 9:35pm

Lauren Bacall was one of those Hollywood types that was the epitome of class, grace and dignity.  And a mesmerizing actor. 

Joan, I can't even begin to imagine how companies recruit and train people to do such crazy jobs.  I hope they well-paid for their services.  If it was me up there, the people down at street level would probably be covered in my vomit.   

 

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