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11 "unanswerable" questions for atheists - answered (Aron Ra)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Jun 6. 1 Reply

If you spend any time around YouTube and have any history of looking at atheist material (or even theist material!), you will inevitably run into: "XX Questions Atheists Can't Answer."  These are occasionally followed by: "XX Questions Atheists…Continue

Tags: apologist, answer, questions, unanswerable, Aron Ra

worshipping narcissists (qualiasoup & theramintrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jun 3. 1 Reply

They're all around us: people who perceive the world as revolving around them and will go to considerable lengths to make it so: narcissists.  Such beings have been with humanity, I suspect, since humanity emerged from the gene pool.  Even worse,…Continue

Tags: narcissist, QualiaSoup, TheraminTrees

Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat May 2. 42 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

Tags: singing, lyrics, reclaimed, reclaiming, HumanLight

appropriating morality (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo May 1. 7 Replies

We've all heard the claim: "Human morality comes from god."  And we've all seen for ourselves what Yahweh's "morality" looks like, from condemnations of homosexuality and the treatment of women as chattel to inexplicable sanctions against the eating…Continue

Tags: morality, appropriating, TheraminTrees

Bible Belt Atheist (New York Times)

Started by Loren Miller Apr 19. 0 Replies

The following showed up in my YouTube feed this morning, and I decided to have a look.  Turns out, the New York Times has given us a reasonably even-handed look at a good friend of ours, being one Jerry DeWitt, former bible-thumper and now a pretty…Continue

Tags: Bible Belt, atheist, Jerry DeWitt

How would you respond?

Started by Christina Scribner. Last reply by Christina Scribner Apr 10. 5 Replies

So, this morning, I was at my local coffee shop as I am most weekdays between bus runs. I do the editing on my husband's books so I had my laptop with me. My wallpaper is a picture I found online sometime back of a double helix with the word atheist…Continue

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Comment by Randall Smith on May 25, 2016 at 7:06am

Finally, back on A/N. My dog, Dot, (Molly was my old dog, hit by a vehicle, Joan) is back, safe and sound. She was "rescued" by a farmer, put in a pen for safekeeping overnight. Dot would have found her way home, I imagine, but couldn't "escape". I went house to house to find her--and did! Thanks for the kind words.

Comment by Ian Mason on May 22, 2016 at 11:17pm

Hope your dog turns up soon, Randall. I know it must be a worry.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 22, 2016 at 2:08pm

Grinning Cat, I like your statement, "A super­human AI would likely not be either "good" or "evil" but rather ALIEN."

Carl, I didn't know the sax was invented by a Belgian, Adolphe Sax. I wonder if my Dad knew?  His father was from Belgium; my Dad played sax and clarinet in a dance band. They played the grange circuit before WWII. After that, he played for his pleasure. 

Ian, sorry to learn of your stepmom's death. My solace to her family and friends.

Randy, I am sorry to learn of Dolly, I think, or was it Molly? I forget. I surely hope she finds her way home. I like your stories about your time with her. Also, Randy, I love your photos of Greece. Such an amazing country and history. I hope Greece gets out from under its debt to NMF. 

I am packing up books and stuff to go to Volunteers of America. This is a good thing, I am sorting out 41 years of accumulation and won't have to leave it to my kids. I pretty much know what they want because we already boxed it up and took it to Newport when I moved up there. 

I expect to have ten more years here and then provide food for the worms. If Eighty-years-old is hard, I don't want to know what 90 will be. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 22, 2016 at 1:44pm

Randall - here's hoping your doggie shows up soon. It's awful when that happens.

Comment by Loren Miller on May 22, 2016 at 1:10pm

Hope your four-legged buddy shows up soon, Randall, alive and well!

Comment by Randall Smith on May 22, 2016 at 7:08am

I'm a wee bit concerned--well, maybe somewhat more than a wee bit--about my missing dog. While going on our daily walk, she hung back to explore something. I kept walking as usual as she catches up eventually. Not this time. I went back to look for her, asked about her at several farm houses close by. Nothing. I've peered out the windows hundreds of time hoping she found her way back home.  I'll go out again today to look. She does have a "chip", so if she winds up at the Humane Society, I can be notified. Dang.

Comment by Ian Mason on May 22, 2016 at 1:50am

Thanks, Carl.

I've been in touch with the family and won't be leaving until Wednesday. They've already sorted out the funeral and there's nothing I can do to help.

I visited the Musical Instrument Museum which was very interesting and included saxes. It was also very warm and humid, for the sake of the wooden instruments I presume. Almost everything is closed on Mondays except for the Atomium. Perhaps you were there on a Monday?

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 21, 2016 at 3:07pm

Ian, sorry to hear about your stepmum.  My condolences to your family. 

I've been to Brussels only once back in 1998 and it was only for one day.  I wanted to visit their saxophone museum but it was closed that day.  The saxophone was invented by Belgian Adolphe Sax in 1846.

Comment by Ian Mason on May 21, 2016 at 8:00am

Hello all. Have just returned from Brussels, which was nice but to the news that my stepmum has died so I only have time to turn round and get off again to England.

I visited Athens with my daughter a few years ago. I loved it. She thought - as teenagers do - that I was daft, getting excited over old stones.

Comment by Grinning Cat on May 17, 2016 at 10:12pm

Catching up... sounds like you had a wonderful trip, Randy!

About "What to think about machines that think", the discussion "Terminator movies too comforting" is worth revisiting! A super­human AI would likely not be either "good" or "evil" but rather ALIEN.

 

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