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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

Nobody here is into mind games. A discussion started with a loaded guilt-throwing question will be deleted.

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Bible Belt Atheist (New York Times)

Started by Loren Miller on Thursday. 0 Replies

The following showed up in my YouTube feed this morning, and I decided to have a look.  Turns out, the New York Times has given us a reasonably even-handed look at a good friend of ours, being one Jerry DeWitt, former bible-thumper and now a pretty…Continue

Tags: Bible Belt, atheist, Jerry DeWitt

How would you respond?

Started by Christina Scribner. Last reply by Christina Scribner Apr 10. 5 Replies

So, this morning, I was at my local coffee shop as I am most weekdays between bus runs. I do the editing on my husband's books so I had my laptop with me. My wallpaper is a picture I found online sometime back of a double helix with the word atheist…Continue

The Fake Christian Busybody Show (Andrew Bradley)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Plinius Apr 9. 1 Reply

It seems as though there was a Gay Pride parade in some town somewhere and a Christian commentator, herein known as The Activist Mommy, apparently got her panties so in a bunch about it that she had to fire up her video camera and record a…Continue

Tags: gay, pride, The Activist Mommy, Andrew Bradley, America's Best Christian

America Held Hostage: Day 436 (MisterDeity)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Apr 9. 1 Reply

Now that Sinclair Broadcasting has stated their position regarding fake news and its threat to our democracy, Mister Deity's Brian Dalton has decided to throw his $0.02 worth in as well ... though I don't quite think his presentation was really what…Continue

Tags: fake news, Deity, Mister, Broadcasting, Sinclair

Guns: Both Sides Now (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Christina Scribner Apr 3. 3 Replies

Oh, NO!  The gun debate has gotten so heated that it has Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, TALKING TO HERSELF!  Apparently, one of her has had a stroke or a serious breakdown in cognitive skills, as she does little more than parrot the NRA's…Continue

Tags: NRA, guns, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

how dogma pollutes discourse (qualiasoup & theramintrees)

Started by Loren Miller Apr 3. 0 Replies

"The Lord is our God; the Lord is One." "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father, but by Me." "There is no god but Allah, and Mohamed is his prophet." Assertions, taught as fact, but without any form of corroborative…Continue

Tags: dogma, QualiaSoup, TheraminTrees

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Comment by Patricia on January 3, 2018 at 2:50am

That it is....

Comment by Plinius on January 3, 2018 at 2:48am

Good news!

Comment by Patricia on January 3, 2018 at 2:31am

B.C. to cover cost of abortion pill Mifegymiso

Starting Jan. 15, province to become the sixth in Canada to make the pill universally available at no cost............

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-to-cover-cost-of...

Comment by Chris on January 2, 2018 at 9:11am

Keeping feet dry helps prevent frostbite.

Aluminum Sulfate on the feet helps those who tend to have a wet (sweaty) foot dry.

A podiatrist prescribed a liquid that came in what looked like a nasal spray bottle containing aluminum sulfate to spray on my feet to keep them from sweating. It worked well. Kept my feet dry, which kept my toes warm.

Aluminum Sulfate liquid such as I used may require a prescription.

Without that even with wool lined boots when my foot was wet my foot was always cold.

An antipersperiant containing Aluminum Sulfate may work well for many.

I hope this suggestion helps some keep their toes warm.

Comment by Chris on January 2, 2018 at 2:34am

I agree hugs are benificial. Providing words of encouragement and support helps tremendously.

That's action.

A prayer circle is meaninless.

If I may.

A friend of mine had intestinal surgery at a medium size religious hospital.   For some reason before she was able to digest food the clinicians provided oral pain medicine which resulded in an overdose and vomiting.

Providing oral pain medicine before she was able to digest should have been an easy thing for the hospital to determine. Yet they made that simple mistake.

It's kind of, but not really complicated. My fried was provided multiple doses of oral pain medicine before here intestines were digesting.  When the intestines finally began to work multiple doses of oral pain medicine went theough her gut resulting in an overdose.  She vomited, asperated and ended up with respritory failure.

They put her in a medically induced coma an held her in intensive care. While she was in intensive care the surgeon recomended turning  off and unplugging her from life support.

There was a procession of employees in line praying for her.

 [If we prey long enough for her you may not sue us.]

Fortunately an Intensive care nurse recommended tranferring her to another hospital where she was in and out of an induced coma for four months before almost recovering fully.

Having written that I agree that support groups help tremendously, with substance rather than blind  prayer circles.

_of course the details of this is way more complicated and detailed than I posted here.

Comment by Patricia on January 2, 2018 at 1:48am

The praying thing just doesn't cut it. During my cancer, my in-laws drove me to appointments, made meals, made sure Rick also ate properly, & even cleaned the house. That was far more helpful as it gave me a few less things to try to do myself.

Comment by Ian Mason on January 2, 2018 at 1:39am

'Thinking of you'. I belong to an online support group for people with depression and my experience is that giving and receiving even a few kind words helps. The feeling of not being alone makes a difference. So I agree with you, Joan. Praying, of course, does nothing; acts and words of kindness can.

There was a study of prayer and healing a few years ago that found there was actually a 'noncebo' effect.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/31/health/31pray.html

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 2, 2018 at 1:13am

Chris, you wrote, "Is prayer and wishing others well the same thing as action?"

When an individual feels alone, or afraid, or sad, or hurt physically or emotionally, prayer and well wishes do not have the same power as actions. The funniest way I saw this principle expressed was the video: Don't pray for me, make me a sandwich!!

On the other hand, when an individual feels a sense of belonging to a community, or safety, or support emotionally and physically, well wishes and prayer have power. I remember how strong I felt when I received encouragement from Atheist Nexus friends while I battled cancer. 

Which has the most power? Well, we have all known the words, "I'll pray for you" or "I am thinking of you," and nothing else happens,  the negative feelings remain.

No! Prayer and wishing others well is not the same thing as action?"

On the other hand, an individual has a vested interest in building a community of supportive people around him or her as kind of a cushion when/if bad things happen in life. 

Sometimes I wish I didn't think in terms of two hands. 

Comment by Chris on January 1, 2018 at 9:16pm

Indeed, Joan

Faith, prayer, and well wishes doesn't offer security or provide safety. 

Action does.

Is prayer and wishing others well the same thing as action?

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on January 1, 2018 at 4:34pm

Joan, you have grass where the snow melted? It looked so deep in an earlier picture. Did it green up again? But surely it's deep frozen now. It was 9 degrees here this morning, just north of Philly. You're well north of me.

 

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