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The Burial Waltz

Started by Donatien Alphonse François. Last reply by Donatien Alphonse François Apr 26. 4 Replies

Hi everyone,It was almost a half-century ago, at age 15 or so, that I encountered one of the more important influences in my life: a crazy group of poets/musicians who called themselves The Fugs.They had a huge impact on me in that, though raised in…Continue

Some William Blake to Ponder

Started by Donatien Alphonse François. Last reply by Donatien Alphonse François Apr 25. 6 Replies

Hello all,I'm new here, and so hope this isn't old hat. But, I just had to point you toward a marvelous poem by William Blake in case you've never read it. Despite his sometimes heavily tinged biblical references in his other art and poetry, this…Continue

God's Not Dead - The Christian Persecution Complex (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Annie Willis Apr 20. 7 Replies

Doubtless most if not all of you have heard about that sorry piece of cinema known as God's Not Dead, and perhaps its sequel, cleverly entitled: God's Not Dead 2 (wow, how original!).  Personally, I have wasted neither time nor money on either,…Continue

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Confirmed: flagged by religious people for "bullying."

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The Value of Atheist Nexus ... and of Keeping Contact

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Atheist Pig STRIKES AGAIN!!!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev Apr 5. 1 Reply

There's no getting around it, Atheist Pig is fast becoming my fave secular comic, and as evidence, I refer you to the following.  Jesus and Mo had better watch their respective asses, 'cuz they got a porker coming up on the outside, and I'm pretty…Continue

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Comment by sk8eycat on May 5, 2014 at 3:12am

Comment by sk8eycat on May 5, 2014 at 1:37am

Patricia, sometimes I could weep for you, and for others in here who had crappy childhoods.  Mine wasn't perfect, but both my parents encouraged me to ask questions and explore whatever interested me...even my semi-fundie mother.  Things didn't go bad till my early teens when Dad dove into a bottle of gin, and stayed there till after I "ran away to join the circus (ice show)."

I never, EVER invited a boyfriend into the house; I always waited for them on the front porch or on the corner, because I was ashamed of the old man passed out on the sofa.  But that's all; I was never told that I was worthless or going to some imaginary place of torment.

Dad sobered up (after an ugly family intervention that I'm glad I missed), I came home, and went to work for him for 7 years till he fell off the wagon, and I went back with Holiday till I had an appendicitis attack and surgery and was off the ice for 3 months.

I was extremely fortunate that the attack happened while we were playing Los Angeles, and I was living at home at the time.  I was also glad that I was still out of the show a few weeks later when we would have been in Memphis...that was the week MLK was murdered....

I went back to a different unit that summer, hated it, sprained my ankle while we were still in rehearsal, and got sent home.  All my luggage got sent to SFO.

I decided that at 28, living out of  suitcase wasn't the adventure it was when I was 18, and went back to bookkeeping and escrow work.  I still actually enjoy reconciling bank statements and doing manual ledger-keeping.  Making the books balance is sort like getting an ephemeral pat on the back.

Comment by Plinius on May 5, 2014 at 1:28am

Glad it's over, Patricia, and you did it so very well! Congrats!  I'm now also able to keep my balance when I meet the last remnants of my family, but they never make me feel good. Perhaps I should clear them out too.

Comment by sk8eycat on May 5, 2014 at 12:27am

Patricia. I'm so glad the Wicked Weekend is finally over!  You did everything right, and maybe, Just maybe, gave both your daughter and the maternal unit a few things to think about.

As for "forgiving & forgetting," that's bullshit, unless you're referring to cheating at cards, or accidentally tripping somebody...minor stuff.  There a a few individuals on this planet who have hurt me much less than your so-called family has hurt you, and I still will not see them or talk to them, because I know that they are more concerned with themselves than they are with the rest of the world, and I'm in no shape to give them a chance to hurt me again.  And I know they will; they can't help it, and they wonder why they have no friends anymore.

YOU have friends, and a husband who loves you, and will back you up no matter what, and you know what that means?

YOU ARE A WINNER!

Comment by k.h. ky on May 4, 2014 at 4:31pm
Patricia, you did good. I'm not big on forgiveness either but sometimes we gotta tolerate. You tolerated with style.
Comment by Joan Denoo on May 4, 2014 at 3:08pm

Ian a lovely photo of meadow flowers. Oh! to create such a scene! 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 4, 2014 at 2:40pm

Oh! Patricia! You did it! You were in control of your feelings and not intimidated by her. You won that battle! Even of more importance, you have the tools to take on such people and so gain your own power. Felaine gave you excellent advice. 

One form of powerlessness is doing the opposite of what the powerful one wants and expects. That isn't freedom, that is dependence. So is doing what you think will please her. That is dependence. 

To be free of such influence, you called the shots, you made it a pleasant event for yourself, and my goodness, what a lovely way to have a nice dinner and breakfast, you enjoyed it, and so did your husband, I suspect. So it made no difference to you what she wanted or didn't want you to do. 

You are now FREE and NOT DEPENDENT!

Comment by Ian Mason on May 4, 2014 at 2:33pm

Glad to hear your news, Patricia. Well done. By the way, with that kind of feed on offer you can dislike me anytime :-D

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 4, 2014 at 1:49pm

Patricia beat me to it Ian.  I also love the colors.  I love multicolored multi-type wildflowers!

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 4, 2014 at 1:46pm

If my mormon ex-wife ever came to visit again, I don't know if I would hug her or not.  She was not as bad as your mom Patricia, so if she wanted to, I probably would.

 

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