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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Compelledunbeliever on Tuesday. 37 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller Sep 6. 0 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

We Don't Want Your (Atheist) Money! (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 2. 17 Replies

I suppose I've heard stories like this before:Conscientious atheist donates money to worthy cause.Worthy cause initially accepts money.Worthy cause discovers source of donation.Worthy cause rejects donation.Swell, eh?  Well Matt Willbourne of…Continue

Tags: American Baptist Churches Association, Murrow Indian Children's Home, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Sep 2. 3 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Are You a Patriot? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris G Aug 29. 22 Replies

You might think that Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, would be stepping outside of her comfort zone in tackling the concept of patriotism.  As it turns out, not only does she have a proper handle on the term and its implications, she also…Continue

Tags: patriot, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

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Comment by Joan Denoo on June 25, 2014 at 11:27pm

Felaine, living with cats does give one an education! And trying to herd cats is like trying to get people to think beyond their superstitions and delusions. 

Your sense of humor and your insights are perfect for meeting this challenge.

Comment by sk8eycat on June 25, 2014 at 11:07pm

Joan, you made a very good point...ridicule!  Intelligent wit is a powerful weapon.  Robert G. Ingersoll (for one) used it to devastating effect in the 19th Century.  A pity he did not survive into the 20th.

The anti-education people, creationists, ALL of the different protesters against the power of the human mind are to some extent afraid of something...not always the same thing...but they are afraid.  And just throwing facts at them has never made a dent in their collective attitudes.  It has to be done artistically, and lightly...at first. 

Show them the absurdity of the entire idea of "Noah's" flood story, for starters.  I knew that one was nonsense when I was a child....just by living with cats.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 25, 2014 at 11:00pm

Patricia, I read your statement about Ruth's concern for real issues that will impact us all and I understand wanting to keep the "bad" news out of our lives and live life as though there were no problems. I would call this a denial of what is real and important. 

I find Ruth's contributions extremely timely and valuable and I have the concerns about people putting their heads in the sand and acting as if we live in Camelot. 

There are some changes that need to be made in public perceptions. One of the most important is the reality of climate change and what will happen if we do not make preparations for it. Whether we like it or not, the tipping point has already been reached and sea level is rising. Denying it won't change what is happening.  

You and I won't be directly impacted by rising waters as we live at considerable elevation. We will be impacted however. Roads, highways, railroad tracks, buildings, subways, infrastructures that are at risk will have to be modified if we are to continue having their services and that costs money ... lots of money. The costs will come to you and me, whether we like it or not. Might as well get used to it. 

As for me, I want all the accurate information I can get. How else will I be able to meet the new challenges? The mythology that life will always be as we have known it will catch us off guard unless we are forewarned. 

I can remember as a very small child the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor by the Japanese. The general public was caught off guard. Now, all these years later, we discover there were signs long before the attack that war was coming. In fact, my father got a job building railroad bridges across the southern tier of USA in preparation for moving men and material back and forth across the nation for the coming war. He didn't know he was hired to prepare for war. He just thought the railroad needed bridges. Looking back on it, the labor camps were huge. I lived in one of them until after Pearl Harbor and then he was sent to Alaska to build airfields for the war against Japan. We had no clue; I am certain my father didn't figure it out until years later. 

Some people have commented that my posts are pessimistic and if you or anyone else feels that way I encourage you to block my posts. I have already told my granddaughters to block me because they don't want to read about this stuff. Well, they have the right to be uninformed. I will not, indeed I cannot stop writing about what is happening and I do not take it personally that some don't want to read about it. Blocking me is an excellent option. 

Perhaps Ruth feels differently than I do; I don't know. @ Ruth, I know you get depressed about this at times and Mindy is right, we are here to learn how each of us is fairing and we have broad enough shoulders to read the painful feelings as well as any feeling that may come up. 

Yes, there are good stories that come up and they do give relief. And the awful jokes help crack me us, as well. So, write on, whatever the thought. I welcome your comments and value them. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 25, 2014 at 9:30pm

Ruth, your depression is legitimate, given the failure of people who should know better are fighting against valid information. Given that other people's beliefs interfere with rational decision making by our government, then we have to tackle the problem at its source.

Who are the people who thump bibles? Who teaches creationism and intelligent design? Who persuades countless numbers of people that the rapture is about to occur and it is all god's will? That we should do nothing to prevent the climatic collapse that science warns about. 

It does no good to try to reason with such folks; they just hunker down and fight harder. 

The way to get through to a larger population is to ridicule, point out the obvious fallacies, tell the truth about what is happening and some people who are sitting on the fence may just start to laugh with us and decide that putting faith in beliefs is a risky thing to do. 

Of course, I could be wrong. Does anyone have a better strategy? 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 25, 2014 at 8:42pm

Spud, I haven't seen a squirrel at rest, either.

Patricia, I like the quote of faith being the lazy way out of a pickle.  

k.h. ky , it must be that the Supreme Court judges all have cell phones. 

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on June 25, 2014 at 8:40pm

I'm OK, flying Atheist. Just a bit depressed about Climate Destabilization. Today I was thinking a lot about how people in Central America are already having heat-related health ef..., when the forecasts for coming decades are so much worse.

That squirrel does look unusually tired, or hot.

I'd never heard of Atheist Cosmos on Facebook.

Comment by k.h. ky on June 25, 2014 at 6:55pm
The supreme court finally got something right in the ruling against police being allowed access to our cell phones without a warrant.
I wonder how they'll rule when I bring down a drone with a shotgun...
Comment by Idaho Spud on June 25, 2014 at 4:34pm

Looks like a good present Plinius.

Joan, of all the thousands of squirrels I've seen in this neighborhood over the years, I can't remember seeing one rest.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 25, 2014 at 8:59am

Rest, relax, and renew 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 25, 2014 at 8:47am

Chris! that a great gift! Love Luna enjoying chives!

 

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