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Degrees of Doubt: The Claims and Credentials of Ravi Zacharias (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris May 17. 1 Reply

Anyone here ever run onto an apologist by the name of Ravi Zacharias?  I've seen his name dropped multiple times on YouTube as supposedly being THE ONE APOLOGIST that no atheist wants to cross swords with, because of his facility with christian…Continue

Tags: Ravi Zacharias, Steve Baughman, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Most Hated Woman in America (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Gary S Apr 19. 7 Replies

Before Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty, before Dawkins or Dennett or Harris or even Hitchens, there was Madalyn Murray O'Hair.  In the midst of an America where Christianity was being flaunted as a defense against the godless communists of the Soviet…Continue

Tags: Frank Zindler, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Madalyn Murray O'Hair

Proud Dad is REALLY Proud Now!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Todd Williams Apr 12. 16 Replies

As some of you may or may not know, my daughter is a television news producer, currently working in Nashville, Tennessee.  Her assignment is the morning news, which means she blasts herself up at umpti-ump in the morning to organize and prepare a…Continue

Tags: Emmy, news, television, daughter, dad

attacking ideas (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 1 Reply

Attacking ideas is a considerable portion of what we as atheists do.  Why attack ideas?  Ideas earn attack when they don't serve people, not just us but those who adopt said ideas, mistakenly thinking that they have value when they don't.  Our…Continue

Tags: ideas, Islam, TheraminTrees

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 40 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

The Playboy Interview: Richard Dawkins

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 28. 16 Replies

I suppose it was the news that Playboy magazine was returning nudes to its pages after a year's hiatus that sufficiently perked my curiosity to check them out again.  I hadn't looked at Playboy since perhaps 2008, when I began to recognize that I…Continue

Tags: Richard Dawkins, Playboy

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Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 5, 2017 at 1:05pm

Chris, yes, Alexander Calder has several pieces of artwork on display in Chicago.  Interesting that you should bring up his name at this time.  Coincidentally, two of his most prominent and iconic pieces have been making news headlines here just recently.  

The Universe, on display in the lobby of the Willis Tower (formerly the Sears Tower) since 1974, was dismantled last month and put into storage in preparation for a lobby renovation.  Renovation plans do not include installation.  There is also a legal dispute over who owns the art.

Calder sculpture no longer in Willis Tower 

The other threatened piece is Flamingo.  Also on display since 1974, it has become a cherished icon in Chicago.  It sits in a wide, open plaza bordered on three sides by three Mies van der Rohe designed buildings.  The beautiful bright red color and curves of Flamingo are a stark contrast to the dark, rigid steel and glass buildings by van der Rohe.  The melding of the Calder sculpture and the Mies van der Rohe buildings have created a much loved and beautiful public plaza.  

Right now there is talk of renovating the plaza, and so the future of this sculpture has been questioned.  There are conflicting stories about what is planned for this plaza.  And again, there is a dispute as to who owns the artwork.  The plaza and the Mies van der Rohe buildings are owned by the federal government.  They house federal courts and offices and a post office.  The sculpture was commissioned by the federal government as a public work of art.  Over the years it became an important visual icon of Chicago. 

Preservationists Sound Alarm Over ‘Flamingo’ Sculpture

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 5, 2017 at 8:24am

Comment by Loren Miller on May 5, 2017 at 5:28am

Cinco de Mayo!!! Libertad!!!

Comment by Chris on May 5, 2017 at 2:57am

What are you raising in your green house Joan?

Comment by Chris on May 4, 2017 at 7:08pm

I dislike hearing that President Trump wants to decrease funding for the arts, humanities and PBS.

Comment by Chris on May 4, 2017 at 7:00pm

I read that Alexander Coulder has some great mobile artwork in Chicago.

Comment by Lilac on May 4, 2017 at 5:51pm

I love fountains.

Comment by Daniel W on May 4, 2017 at 5:21pm

Carl those are somd beautiful fountains!  I only remember Buckingham fountain. I lived in Chicago for 4 years but honestly never had much chance to see the sites.  I do have some El memories, most of them not so great :-)

Joan, those living memories are so important.  Im glad you had a chance to reflect.  I think about visitinv my home town, for relatdd reasons.  Buf that journey will have to wait, if it ever happens at all.

Ian, Im glad Denkark made it through another winter!

Comment by Ian Mason on May 4, 2017 at 1:48pm

Denmark has had sleet, hail and frost up to the end of April but has survived.

Joan, I admire how much you love your life. Your memories of Cary must be sad and sweet together. I'm glad that his trees and plants are flourishing for you.

Great fountains, Carl. Yes, they are one of the bright things about this season.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 4, 2017 at 1:26pm

What I like about the Spring season is that all the fountains get turned on again.

Chicago's Fabulous Fountains from Julia Thiel on Vimeo.

 

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