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...but intelligent people believe in God (DarkMatter2525)

Started by Loren Miller 7 hours ago. 0 Replies

A ridiculous claim should be recognized as such as a matter of course, shouldn't it?  Shouldn't It?!?  What happens if that claim is so imbued and integrated into society over hundreds if not thousands of years that it has been taken as TRUTH…Continue

Tags: religion, indoctrination, ridiculous claim

Optical Illusions

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jan 31. 66 Replies

This one seems a bit creepy, like the middle one shouldn't be able to change rotation like that. from Cheezburger.comContinue

White House Petition: Change National Motto Back to "E Pluribus, Unum"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by k.h. ky Jan 22. 8 Replies

There is a petition being sponsored by whitehouse.gov to remove "in god we trust" as the national motto and replace it with the original: "E Pluribus, Unum" or "Out of Many, One."  As of this writing, there are around 11,000 signatures on it, with…Continue

Tags: E Pluribus, Unum, in god we trust, petition

There Is Only One Way to Destroy ISIS

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller Dec 24, 2015. 3 Replies

There Is Only One Way to Destroy ISISGrowth in population, policies and practices that create a gap between the typical person and the wealthy,…Continue

coming out (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Atheist in FundyLand Dec 23, 2015. 6 Replies

Whether as atheist, agnostic, gay / Lesbian or whatever, the process of coming out has been a repeated topic of discussion here on Atheist Nexus and for good reason: it is at once a necessary yet potentially supremely painful process, depending on…Continue

Tags: Lesbian, agnostic, gay, atheist, TheraminTrees

If God Exists (DarkMatter2525)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Dec 23, 2015. 4 Replies

"Practice makes perfect."  That's the concept, isn't it?  Work diligently at something, especially something you enjoy and are adept at, and your skills sharpen, your judgment improves, and the product of your efforts demonstrate that improvement. …Continue

Tags: religion, YouTube, god, DarkMatter2525

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Comment by Joan Denoo on February 24, 2014 at 12:24am

Patricia, I know what you write is true, however, Loren makes the case that I am trying to: 

  • In the face of enlightened, personnel-oriented management, unions are unnecessary.
  • In the face of antagonistic, profit-oriented management, unions are MANDATORY.

Unions, like democracy, is only as good as the people involved. 

Perhaps you have a different idea of how to equalize power between workers and management. With an excess of workers applying for each job, and with people not having the skills needed to perform the jobs for this time in history, and not having resources to upgrade their skills, what options do you see? 

A well informed working person knows what skills are needed and takes the initiative to learn those skills. 

Typically, low skill jobs, often in the service industry, do not pay living wages and therefore workers have to take the initiative to develop those skills that pay well. If they failed to get a good public education, or if they failed to apply themselves in free public school, who is to blame for their economic problems? 

I have very little interest in those who did not apply themselves in school. They have no one to blame but themselves. 

For those who did apply themselves in school, learned to be a mechanic, or nurse, or technician, or plumber, or electrician, and who perform at responsible levels, they should be able to earn a living wage. These people, when exploited, need to unionize. 

Comment by sk8eycat on February 23, 2014 at 11:46pm

Goodbye to Sochi!  (I'm the 5th girl on the left)

Comment by Loren Miller on February 23, 2014 at 9:49pm

Joan, a long time ago, I determined the following:

  • In the face of enlightened, personnel-oriented management, unions are unnecessary.
  • In the face of antagonistic, profit-oriented management, unions are MANDATORY.

And from where I sit, I've seen entirely too much of the latter and not enough of the former.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 23, 2014 at 9:36pm

Unions have a terrible reputation, well earned, for not representing their members and scamming the money into their own pockets. 

That said, workers need unions to equalize power with owners of wealth. One carpenter, or one skater or one writer has so little influence over what happens, the corruption continues. When the union is corrupt, then something more needs to happen. Keeping track of statements made and decisions rendered, is the beginning of fighting any dispute. A good investigative reporter knows how to do these things, as does a good lawyer. Both can be allies for the worker.   

Comment by sk8eycat on February 23, 2014 at 9:02pm

Some figure skating history...starring a woman I knew well, even though I never took lessons from her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-kW4bSdx2o

Her determination and courage were phenomenal...and so was her sense of humor.

Comment by Ian Mason on February 23, 2014 at 4:00pm

Joan, is this you?

Comment by Ian Mason on February 23, 2014 at 12:34pm

Would welcome the chance to turn down pain signals in cases of toothache!

Comment by Idaho Spud on February 23, 2014 at 11:17am

Realistically, I would like the ability to turn-off pain signals and have them come back automatically after a certain amount of time, or if they increased in intensity.

I think scientists will find a way to let us do that in the not too distant future.

Comment by Idaho Spud on February 23, 2014 at 11:14am

Joan, I sometime wish I had no pain signals, but I can see where it can cause the loss of limbs and even be life threatening.

I thought it was interesting when I learned years ago that part of the reason people with Leprosy loose limbs is because they can become too damaged before the person realizes it.

Sounds like it's time for me to get some seeds for gardening.

Comment by Ian Mason on February 23, 2014 at 11:01am

Thanks for your support. I'm glad to have you as friends.

Glad to hear that your nerves are coming back online, Joan and that the pain in your fingers has gone. Hope the feet wake up soon. Happy sowing and planting :-)

 

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