Hang With Friends

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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

Nobody here is into mind games. A discussion started with a loaded guilt-throwing question will be deleted.

This group is not intended to compete with other groups on topics they cover but to "fill in the cracks." Whenever a discussion dwells at length on a topic for which there's an existing group, we urge you to provide members a link to that group to continue along their tangent.

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Discussion Forum

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly yesterday. 15 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Tuesday. 2 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

A moment to relax and see the Earth from space; some how this comforts me.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev on Sunday. 3 Replies

All the squabbles and struggles that I have do not compare with those of some others on this great planet. There are no boundary lines, no political arguments, no up or no down. What is, is. For right now, the scenes offer tranquility. Just the…Continue

Tags: and, wonder, awe, of, space

His Dark Materials and the Catholic Church

Started by Tonya R. Wheeler. Last reply by Plinius on Sunday. 27 Replies

I recently watched the movie, "The Golden Compass" and since I could not find the sequels, I read the books. I enjoyed them, and I will be reading the first one, Northern Lights, starting tomorrow, since it just arrived via inter-library…Continue

Tags: Fantasy, Catholic, Religion, Atheist, Pullman

Issues Atheist, Feminist, GLBTQ, Climate Change

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 6. 2 Replies

This is a test Continue

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 29. 39 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

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Comment by Loren Miller on May 21, 2014 at 9:08pm

This is something I heard courtesy of a friend and colleague of mine, quite a few years ago.  Bill Evans brings a deft, soulful touch to a classic George Gershwin song from Porgy and Bess: "My Man's Gone Now:

Comment by sk8eycat on May 21, 2014 at 6:17pm

Well, using a hand-held phone, or texting while driving is illegal in California, and has been for several years, but there still are people who think what they have to say is so effiing important that they either break the law, or get no-hands phones for their cars.  It's still a distraction.

I never liked it when a passenger would babble at me when I was trying to drive and watch the road at the same time.  I try to give anyone else the same courtesy of shutting up when they are doing the driving.

Maybe it's just me...I could never give complete (necessary) attention to two things at once.

Comment by Steph S. on May 21, 2014 at 9:49am

Ian love your pictures - beautiful !

How is everyone doing? I have seen many texting at restaurants and ignoring their partner or family sk8eycat. Now I hear people drive and try to text at the same time and cause many accidents.

Comment by sk8eycat on May 21, 2014 at 9:36am

Patricia, I just signed the petition.

Idaho....I was disgusted with cell phones when they first came on the market back in the 1980s, but texting...?  I don't understand what could be so important that a person would totally ignore whoever they are with (dinner guests?), or what's happening around them, to tap silly messages on a tiny screen. 

I still remember a deadly local train wreck that happened because one engineer was texting instead of paying attention to the signals he should have been keeping an eye out for.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 21, 2014 at 6:55am

Joan, thanks for your explanation of why we don't have free will.  I'm starting to grasp what's meant by that.  Since getting rid of religion, I'm getting better at using my reasoning mind to determine what's true and what's false.  My stress level is also reduced, and I'm trying to reduce it further.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 21, 2014 at 6:48am

Felaine, that's a good bit of sarcasm. 

Comment by Ian Mason on May 20, 2014 at 11:57pm

I've had a very good week away: seen the sights of Istanbul - Blue Mosque, Aya Sophia, Topkapi Palace, Museum of Archeology. Mosaics Museum, Museum of Modern Art - plus taken a couple of trips, to Gallipoli and to the ruins of Troy. Also took a walk to Taksim square where many demonstrations have taken place. When I tried to get close to the monument in the middle to see what it was I was politely told to leave by plain-clothes coppers. When I lookes round I could see that there was a large police presence around the square. The penny dropped. They were afraid that the coal-miner protests were going to spread.

Gallipoli was very moving.  It made me think of Hamlet:

"We go to gain a little patch of ground/that hath in it no profit but the name"

1,500 ANZACs and 3,000 Turks died in 3 days of fighting for a position the size of 3 football pitches at Lone Pine; at The Nek 450 ANZACs died trying to capture a piece of ground the size of 2 tennis courts. In all, 37,000 Allied troops and over 80,000 Turkish were died in a pointless campaign, Churchill's biggest f*** up in the meat-grinder that was WW1.

Lone Pine Memorial:

Comment by Ian Mason on May 20, 2014 at 11:28pm

That particular cake is almond, eaten with tea while looking out over the Bosphorus from the Topkapi Palace museum.

Comment by sk8eycat on May 20, 2014 at 7:17pm


Comment by Joan Denoo on May 20, 2014 at 6:57pm
Spud, it is important that we understand that we do NOT have free will. That is a construct of religious dogma telling people they have choices in how they feel, think and act. Their god gets off the hook when people behave in ways unacceptable to their clan rules.
There are influences in our genetic code of which we are not aware that create feelings that are based on things from our historic past. We have no control over those feelings because they come from the code.
I am not saying a person is not responsible for their actions, I am saying people are not responsible for their feelings.
Robert Sapolsky speaks to these influences from each individual's past. When his statement sturck a nurve in you, it was a perfect example of which he speaks. In the case of Holland's Winter of Hunger, there was a genetic change that can be documented through DNA tests. Who knows how many of us have stress related DNA changes caused by things that happened in generations previous to ours.
The skill required is to recognize the stress and anxiety that we feel that comes from the brain's amygdala, learn how to manage the stress with our reasoning mind, and make decisions and take action with those cognitive processes.
Sam Harris speaks to this,
"Sam Harris argues that this truth about the human mind does not undermine morality or diminish the importance of social and political freedom, but it can and should change the way we think about some of the most important questions in life."

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