Hang With Friends

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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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11 "unanswerable" questions for atheists - answered (Aron Ra)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Jun 6. 1 Reply

If you spend any time around YouTube and have any history of looking at atheist material (or even theist material!), you will inevitably run into: "XX Questions Atheists Can't Answer."  These are occasionally followed by: "XX Questions Atheists…Continue

Tags: apologist, answer, questions, unanswerable, Aron Ra

worshipping narcissists (qualiasoup & theramintrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jun 3. 1 Reply

They're all around us: people who perceive the world as revolving around them and will go to considerable lengths to make it so: narcissists.  Such beings have been with humanity, I suspect, since humanity emerged from the gene pool.  Even worse,…Continue

Tags: narcissist, QualiaSoup, TheraminTrees

Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat May 2. 42 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

Tags: singing, lyrics, reclaimed, reclaiming, HumanLight

appropriating morality (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo May 1. 7 Replies

We've all heard the claim: "Human morality comes from god."  And we've all seen for ourselves what Yahweh's "morality" looks like, from condemnations of homosexuality and the treatment of women as chattel to inexplicable sanctions against the eating…Continue

Tags: morality, appropriating, TheraminTrees

Bible Belt Atheist (New York Times)

Started by Loren Miller Apr 19. 0 Replies

The following showed up in my YouTube feed this morning, and I decided to have a look.  Turns out, the New York Times has given us a reasonably even-handed look at a good friend of ours, being one Jerry DeWitt, former bible-thumper and now a pretty…Continue

Tags: Bible Belt, atheist, Jerry DeWitt

How would you respond?

Started by Christina Scribner. Last reply by Christina Scribner Apr 10. 5 Replies

So, this morning, I was at my local coffee shop as I am most weekdays between bus runs. I do the editing on my husband's books so I had my laptop with me. My wallpaper is a picture I found online sometime back of a double helix with the word atheist…Continue

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Comment by Randall Smith on May 24, 2015 at 7:22am

Carl, reading your comment has made my day! I'm relieved and happy to hear you're doing so well. Sounds like you're on the road to recovery. What do you do while on dialysis? Read? You might enjoy Alexander McCall Smith's books. They're light and fun reading. (Strangely, they're catalogued under McCall.)

Ruth, ditto on the other comments. Take your time to return.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 24, 2015 at 6:28am

Ruth, take care of yourself and husband.

Carl, I'm glad to hear your good news.

Comment by Plinius on May 24, 2015 at 2:08am

Good news, I'm happy to hear it!

It's a long road, Carl, but it's wonderful that you do so well and that you're happy about it!

What a heavy job you have, Ruth! Don't apologise, just take care of yourself. We'll see you whenever you've got the time.

I'm not looking forward to a new knee, and my doctor doesn't want to make haste. First I get injections, and I can walk a bit easier now. It doesn't feel quite right - I mean that I still feel so young while my body is creaky. But I'll get used to it.

I'm very happy that our two patients are using less of our time - we need a bit of leisure. Aunt is happily retreating into Alzheimer's and when I phone brother-in-law that we can't visit him, he says:"Oh good, then I have a day off!"  I like honesty, but the Asperger sort of honesty is often a bit too much for me.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 24, 2015 at 12:41am

My gracious, my computer did it again, repeat what I had written. It seems I have a gremlin making duplicates of my posts. 

Carl! Wonderful to read your post! I am so very relieved and happy to learn of your excellent progress. You are a marvel! It is just a matter of time and you will be able to have a life again. 

I share your concern about Ruth and her husband. Surely, their life will get back to normal after his surgery and Ruth's challenges end. She is one strong lady and up to the many tasks facing them. 

Some in the group have faced life-threatening situations recently. The good news, we seem to be a hearty lot. Overcoming problems appear to happen for us as we ride the roller-coaster of life. 

Warm hugs to you, Carl and Ruth. 

Comment by sk8eycat on May 24, 2015 at 12:08am

I don't know if this will help, but there is a product that will thicken water    or any other might soothe your throat a little.  Ask your doctor; I've forgotten what it's called.

I used to take care of an older woman who had myasthenia gravis, and had trouble swallowing water and juice, and this stuff helped keep her hydrated. her heyday before she retired from show biz and became a coach:

Knowing her was an honor.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 23, 2015 at 11:40pm

Thank you, Sk8eycat.  Hugs back to you!

A funny thing happens to me every time I finish dialysis.  My voice gets rough and raspy for several hours.  Perhaps removing liquids from my body via dialysis dries out my throat.  A nurse told me that he's only heard of that happening to one other patient that he knows.  Oh well, that's just like me to be the odd minority.  Dialysis has removed an excess 30-pounds of bloated fluid weight from by body.  I'm now back to my normal size and weight.   

Comment by sk8eycat on May 23, 2015 at 11:25pm

I understand completely,  One of my cousins was on dialysis for 4 years, and they had to drive from Winslow to Flagstaff....(My cousin Alice had a small boy to take care of, too.  I think my aunt did a lot of that work for her.)

PLUS my computer "doctor" goes in at 3:30 AM 3 days a week for his treatments, and goes straight home and pretty much sleeps till the next day. 

It's time consuming and exhausting, from what I've heard, but it DOES work!

Hugs {{{{{CARL}}}}}

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 23, 2015 at 10:37pm

Hey Everybody.  Greetings to all of you. 

I'm sorry for being so absent from here.  I can't believe how time-consuming not working can be.  Dialysis three times a week takes a lot of time.  The treatment, after being hooked up to the machine, is 3-1/2 hours alone.  It takes about 15 minutes to set up and then another 15 minutes to unhook afterward.  That's four hours total.  Then add 30 minutes to drive there and 30 minutes to drive home.  It's almost as long as working a part-time job! 

I have to say, I'm feeling REALLY great......and I haven't even had my kidney transplant yet.  I already feel like a new man.  I had a recent follow-up appointment with my cardiologist, the first seeing him since my heart surgery in March.  He is extremely pleased with my progress and my healing.  He wishes all his patients did so well, he said.  I couldn't be more pleased myself.  He explained to me that apparently initial tests didn't show just how sick I was.  I feel very lucky to have such a positive outcome.  Between kidney failure, a heart attack, a mild stroke, lungs filled with fluid, and a enlarged heart with a faulty valve, I could have "exited the building" just like Elvis at any time.      

I'm also doing daily exercising to strengthen my legs.  They are still quite weak due to my kidney disease.  That really won't change much until after my transplant, but I'm trying to keep myself from failing further.  I am still very unsteady on my feet and I have a problem with balance.  Around the house I'm OK, but when I go for walks outside I use a cane.  It helps me from falling. 

Chris and Randy, thank you for the messages for thinking about me.  As I read through all the posts here, it seems as if everyone is doing well.....except for Ruth.

Ruth, I'm sorry to hear about all the problems your husband is experiencing and how that affects you.  I'm thinking about you!

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 23, 2015 at 7:06pm

Ruth, I was going to write you a note to see how things are progressing and found your update. I am so sorry your husband has had such a hard time with his knee replacement, Clostridium difficile, and C-Pap. Your fatigue and "feeling stupid" don't help him or you. Simple things become more complicated, such as turning off the car. I did that, too. 

Of course, you do not have leisure time or excess energy. Don't worry about Hang with Friends, We will pitch in and solve problems until you are ready to resume your excellent leadership. 

Peaceful thoughts, filled with calm images

Ruth, I was going to write you a note to see how things are progressing and found your update. I am so sorry your husband has had such a hard time with his knee replacement, Clostridium difficile, and C-Pap. The fatigue and "feeling stupid" don't help him or you. Simple things become more complicated, such as turning off the car. I did that, too. 

Of course, you do not have leisure time or excess energy. Don't worry about Hang with Friends, We will pitch in and solve problems until you are ready to resume your excellent leadership. 

Peaceful thoughts, filled with calm images

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on May 23, 2015 at 5:23pm

Hi, everyone! Just a quick note to apologize for not participating for the past month. After my husband's knee replacement hospitalization he spent 4 weeks in rehab. I was driving up to visit him daily, usually getting home by dark. After 3 weeks he got Clostridium difficile, and then his leg swelled up too. He got home Wednesday, and it's been nonstop work, with visiting nurse, physical and occupational therapists, aborted unhelpful interviews with Seniors Helping Seniors, his C-Pap not working right, special c diff precautions, etc. He's managing to get around with a walker, but hasn't graduated to a cane yet.

He's managing 14 prescriptions, including warfarin every day at 5 and vancomycin every 6 hours round the clock.

The higher dose of amlodapine, blood pressure medication that I'm on, makes me very fatigued and very stupid. I frequently try to get out of my car and lock it, forgetting to turn off the engine first (you can't hear the hybrid motor). I'm lucky to read the news on the internet and maybe post about something every 4 days or so.

So it's not that I don't care about all of you, I don't have the leisure for friends right now. I will return when things calm down.

Thanks for your patience. If there's an issue, please leave me a message here and I'll see in 4 days or so. Thanks!


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