Hang With Friends

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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

Nobody here is into mind games. A discussion started with a loaded guilt-throwing question will be deleted.

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Issues Atheist, Feminist, GLBTQ, Climate Change

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by BenGee on Saturday. 3 Replies

This is a test Continue

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Oct 20. 15 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 17. 2 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

A moment to relax and see the Earth from space; some how this comforts me.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev Oct 16. 3 Replies

All the squabbles and struggles that I have do not compare with those of some others on this great planet. There are no boundary lines, no political arguments, no up or no down. What is, is. For right now, the scenes offer tranquility. Just the…Continue

Tags: and, wonder, awe, of, space

His Dark Materials and the Catholic Church

Started by Tonya R. Wheeler. Last reply by Plinius Oct 16. 27 Replies

I recently watched the movie, "The Golden Compass" and since I could not find the sequels, I read the books. I enjoyed them, and I will be reading the first one, Northern Lights, starting tomorrow, since it just arrived via inter-library…Continue

Tags: Fantasy, Catholic, Religion, Atheist, Pullman

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 29. 39 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

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Comment by sk8eycat on April 9, 2014 at 2:42pm

Migrating mallards have been stopping by our pool the last couple of weeks...not many, but one or two every morning.  I hope the chlorine and other chemicals in the water don't harm them.

There's an apartment complex out in the West Valley that gets huge flocks of them every year.  A friend of mine has a pool-cleaning service, and he is NOT fond of the ducks.  Tee-hee!

Comment by Plinius on April 9, 2014 at 9:09am

That is much more than the tourist route, Napoleon! Must have been a good trip! (The tourist route is half a day: Rijksmuseum - Night Watch, tulip fields and Marken, now get back into the bus and quick!)

Comment by Plinius on April 9, 2014 at 6:04am

Very special bird, Napoleon! I wondered how much training he had, then remembered the starlings at Rotterdam Central Station - they mimick the screeching sounds of trams and trains. I can't figure what they get out of it - fun? 

Comment by sk8eycat on April 9, 2014 at 12:13am

Joan, the only problem with my two question is that the average doorbell-ringer probably doesn't understand  about DNA, and how "X" and "Y" chromosomes enter into determining the sex of offspring.

I do know that if all the Holey Spook did was activate one of Mary's ova without intercourse of any kind, Jesus should have been a girl. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 9, 2014 at 12:08am

Napoleon, I enjoy your bird talker! Do you know what kind of bird it is? 

Comment by sk8eycat on April 8, 2014 at 11:57pm

Napoleon, is that a mynah?  I used to "know" one who was raised next to a motorcycle repair shop, and he could perfectly imitate a Harley starting up and driving away.  He even went through some motions...rhythmic bobbing during the start-up, and then spreading his wings and leaning forward on his perch during the drive-away part.

Also, my father's aunt had a mynah who would say, "Why don't you get a GOOD cigar?" He's do that when Dad would light up his pipe. (Dad lived with Aunt Grace when  he was going to college...smoking a pipe was supposed to be "cool.")

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 8, 2014 at 11:51pm

Felane, wonderful questions. They go onto the sheet! 

Comment by Ian Mason on April 8, 2014 at 11:46pm

Well done, Joan. You have, as we say in England, bottle.

Patricia, I too search hard for a daily laugh or smile.

Loren, I'm glad you enjoyed your evening but I wouldn't attend myself. I used to take part in debates on Dawkin's website but soon tired of the sycophancy. "I can never be as good an atheist as Richard" was the comment that finally turned me off. Hero worship just isn't a part of my nature.

Comment by sk8eycat on April 8, 2014 at 9:11pm

"Do you really believe that a female was made from the rib of a male?"  OR "In the case of parthenogenesis, how did a woman give birth to a son?  Where did the 'Y' chromosome come from?"

Why didn't YHWH tell his "chosen people" that the earth is NOT flat?

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 8, 2014 at 8:30pm

Please don't misunderstand me. In 1974, when I was first trying to break away from being a victim, I used violence in return to my father. I would do it again. 

However, I find being unattached a better strategy when dealing with believers, especially the kind that want laws enacted that restrict my judgment, i.e. I will fight:

1) those who want to take away the right of a woman to have control over her own body and

2) those who want intelligent design taught in public schools.

In those cases, they intrude on my rights as a human being and an adult. 

In other encounters, I use the Socratic process: 

Do you really believe there is a supernatural energy who made heaven and Earth? 

or a supernatural energy impregnated a woman? 

or a virgin gave birth to a son? 

or a man who had supernatural power lived on the Earth? 

or in a supernatural spirit? 

or a supernatural man died, was buried, descended into hell? 

or a supernatural man who rose from being dead three days?

or a supernatural man ascended into heaven? 

or do you believe you are part of a group chosen by a supernatural being entitled to redemption? 

or that I have to testify that So-or-so is my lord and master? 

or in the communion of saints? 

or the forgiveness of sin? 

or the resurrection of the body? 

or in a life everlasting? 

As I hear their answers, I take note of them; then ask for the evidence they can give to validate their beliefs. 

There is no need to memorize scripture; all you need to remember are the basic principles of what is real and what is delusion. 

No argument is necessary; it is a strategy to ask and hear their answers. Not to argue with them, or challenge them, or to convert them. I simply want to get the question out into the air and hear their responses. The individual with whom I am in conversation may not ever give thought to what I am asking and their answer. But if there is an audience, especially if the audience is young, they have an opportunity to ask themselves whether these things are true or not. 

It is none of my business what another thinks. It is my business to speak my thoughts. The other can scream, shout, pout, cry, plead, demand, threaten, bully or try to dominate. Just come back with a basic question, "Do you really believe ....?" Leave questions in the air. 


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