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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

Nobody here is into mind games. A discussion started with a loaded guilt-throwing question will be deleted.

This group is not intended to compete with other groups on topics they cover but to "fill in the cracks." Whenever a discussion dwells at length on a topic for which there's an existing group, we urge you to provide members a link to that group to continue along their tangent.

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11 "unanswerable" questions for atheists - answered (Aron Ra)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Jun 6. 1 Reply

If you spend any time around YouTube and have any history of looking at atheist material (or even theist material!), you will inevitably run into: "XX Questions Atheists Can't Answer."  These are occasionally followed by: "XX Questions Atheists…Continue

Tags: apologist, answer, questions, unanswerable, Aron Ra

worshipping narcissists (qualiasoup & theramintrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jun 3. 1 Reply

They're all around us: people who perceive the world as revolving around them and will go to considerable lengths to make it so: narcissists.  Such beings have been with humanity, I suspect, since humanity emerged from the gene pool.  Even worse,…Continue

Tags: narcissist, QualiaSoup, TheraminTrees

Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat May 2. 42 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

Tags: singing, lyrics, reclaimed, reclaiming, HumanLight

appropriating morality (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo May 1. 7 Replies

We've all heard the claim: "Human morality comes from god."  And we've all seen for ourselves what Yahweh's "morality" looks like, from condemnations of homosexuality and the treatment of women as chattel to inexplicable sanctions against the eating…Continue

Tags: morality, appropriating, TheraminTrees

Bible Belt Atheist (New York Times)

Started by Loren Miller Apr 19. 0 Replies

The following showed up in my YouTube feed this morning, and I decided to have a look.  Turns out, the New York Times has given us a reasonably even-handed look at a good friend of ours, being one Jerry DeWitt, former bible-thumper and now a pretty…Continue

Tags: Bible Belt, atheist, Jerry DeWitt

How would you respond?

Started by Christina Scribner. Last reply by Christina Scribner Apr 10. 5 Replies

So, this morning, I was at my local coffee shop as I am most weekdays between bus runs. I do the editing on my husband's books so I had my laptop with me. My wallpaper is a picture I found online sometime back of a double helix with the word atheist…Continue

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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on February 17, 2015 at 8:02pm

Hate to rub it in, but it hit 64 degrees today and it was gorgeous. Getting lots of yardwork done.

Comment by kathy: ky on February 17, 2015 at 7:59pm
Berthold, I absolutely agree with that! We got 13 inches of snow the last 24 hours with another 2-3 inches predicted tonight. Then our temps will drop below zero :(
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on February 17, 2015 at 7:48pm

Thanks for articulating your thoughts, Carl. I had also thought being atheist at least to some extent entailed realizing life is too short for petty bullshit.

Comment by kathy: ky on February 17, 2015 at 7:39pm
Carl, I'm glad your health hasn't taken a sudden turn for the worse. Isn't family the most wonderful thing?
I hope you're feeling stronger.
Comment by The Flying Atheist on February 17, 2015 at 6:42pm

Hello, everyone.  I'm back from a little break which I felt I needed after the recent blow-up here.  I was quite shocked at the response to that stupid dog gif I posted.  The reaction, I thought, was overly emotional and hyperbolic.  To me it was visually obvious that the cranking of the dog's tail was just pretend, and that the dog, its tail and spine were not being physically harmed or twisted in any manner.  Furthermore, like icing on the cake, I was even more astonished that shortly afterward, a post appeared addressing the issue of sexual abuse of dogs and bestiality (!), as if that topic was somehow related.  At that point I felt I needed a break from the insanity.  Abuse of animals is an important topic, but I think the dog gif I posted was the wrong springboard to start that conversation. 

I also have read Ruth's post, Let's not define ourselves or others by our worst behaviors.  In it she makes an important statement:  "As I see it, the video wasn't the real cause of our problem." 

Obviously, there were some other long-standing and festering personality and character issues that surfaced via an ugly display of nasty personal comments.  That exchange took on a life of its own, leaving me at a loss for words.  I'm deeply saddened that, as a result, we have lost not only members from our group but persons who we consider to be our friends.

Whether you agree with my above-stated opinions or not, I'm glad I could finally sit down and express my feelings.      

Comment by Ian Mason on February 17, 2015 at 10:42am

Thank you, everyone. I've chatted with my nephew and it seems that his heart episode should be a one-off event. (I had one like it years ago. Hasn't happened since) His 17 y.o. cousin is out of hospital although still under doctor's care. My brother and his wife are, it seems, coping as well as possible but are in bed and asleep before 10 p.m. every evening. They need the rest, especially my brother who is up at 5 a.m. for work. I'll get updates from my nephew as and when things change.

Thanks again, lovely people.

Comment by Plinius on February 17, 2015 at 7:53am

A cartfull of bad trouble in your family, Ian! It doesn't feel good when your help is unwanted, but it doesn't mean you are unwanted.

Comment by Randall Smith on February 17, 2015 at 7:39am

Yikes, Ian. Perhaps a phone call, email, or letter might be appropriate and appreciated. Shows you're thinking of them.

Yes, I had a feeling we'd lose Mindy. I'm still in a state of shock over all the fuss. On my old blog site, I made a mortal enemy when I mentioned the words "will power" when trying to lose weight, like "you gotta have...". Now, I can make new enemies over here!

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 16, 2015 at 10:37pm

Ian, sorry to learn of your family members with a lung infection, another with heart irregularities at 22 y.o., a collapsed lung in their 17 y.o. nephew., an elderly father in a care home, and their dog, old, ailing and incontinent. It sounds as though they need quiet and rest. Perhaps there is another way you can give them support and encouragement. The information that now is not a good time for you to visit them reflects respect for you, even as you could help in some way. 

With all that you list indicates these are long term problems and they may need your help at some future time. In the meantime, keep yourself healthy, your spirits up, and focus on letting them know you are available when/if they need you. 

I'm glad you shared your feelings with us; this is a good place to express your disappointment. 

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on February 16, 2015 at 10:02pm

I'd give your family their space, Ian. I know when I'm sick I don't really want company. It can be stressful to have visitors, even people you love, when your stress level is already over the top. Thanks for sharing.

 

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