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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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The Burial Waltz

Started by Donatien Alphonse François. Last reply by Donatien Alphonse François Apr 26. 4 Replies

Hi everyone,It was almost a half-century ago, at age 15 or so, that I encountered one of the more important influences in my life: a crazy group of poets/musicians who called themselves The Fugs.They had a huge impact on me in that, though raised in…Continue

Some William Blake to Ponder

Started by Donatien Alphonse François. Last reply by Donatien Alphonse François Apr 25. 6 Replies

Hello all,I'm new here, and so hope this isn't old hat. But, I just had to point you toward a marvelous poem by William Blake in case you've never read it. Despite his sometimes heavily tinged biblical references in his other art and poetry, this…Continue

God's Not Dead - The Christian Persecution Complex (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Annie Willis Apr 20. 7 Replies

Doubtless most if not all of you have heard about that sorry piece of cinema known as God's Not Dead, and perhaps its sequel, cleverly entitled: God's Not Dead 2 (wow, how original!).  Personally, I have wasted neither time nor money on either,…Continue

Tags: God's Not Dead, patheos, Neil Carter, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Confirmed: flagged by religious people for "bullying."

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 19. 4 Replies

According to Seth Andrews @SethAndrewsTTA  Apr 16"Confirmed. TTA was flagged by religious people for "bullying." Apparently, criticism and skepticism = persecution. #GodHatesFacts"Others reported as "Flagged" and taken off line: @The Thinking…Continue

Tags: @SethAndrewsTTA, @morehead_sarah, @Matt_Dillahunty, @jteberhard, confirmed

The Value of Atheist Nexus ... and of Keeping Contact

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 17. 13 Replies

I don't know about you, but the last 24+ hours were VERY uncomfortable for me.  Why?  Because something I value a LOT, being Atheist Nexus and the people I care about on A|N were temporarily unavailable to me.  No, we're not Facebook; I don't think…Continue

Tags: maintenance, community, availability, Atheist Nexus

Atheist Pig STRIKES AGAIN!!!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev Apr 5. 1 Reply

There's no getting around it, Atheist Pig is fast becoming my fave secular comic, and as evidence, I refer you to the following.  Jesus and Mo had better watch their respective asses, 'cuz they got a porker coming up on the outside, and I'm pretty…Continue

Tags: Atheist Pig

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Comment by Joan Denoo on December 20, 2013 at 7:55pm

Loren, you say it so clearly! I would only add:

"Do you really believe in a supernatural god? 

"Can there actually be a virgin birth? 

"Surely you can't believe in a spirit world? 

"Don't you think the devil is a construct of a fear filled person?

"Do you put your trust in a story that came out of a desert people 2,000 years ago? 

"Do you actually believe the Earth is 6,000 years old? 

"Will Stone age people's solutions solve today's problems? 

"Do you actually believe in miracles? 

"Where is the evidence? 

"Have you ever read the scriptures? 

"When are you going to give up childish things and think as an adult? 

"I respect you too much to listen to this nonsense!

I want to force a person to think. I really don't care if they have an answer for me because I won't be around to hear it. I certainly don't want them around me or on my internet strings. Thankfully, it is easy to block nonsense. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 20, 2013 at 7:43pm

Mindy, yes, this is a good place to come and explode in disgust and whatever the feeling. 

I also think it is quite appropriate to state, directly to the one that ticks you off, that you don't like it. Point out exactly what you don't like, You don't need to say why, that is pointless to get into that because he/she will just come back with some sort of denial or defense.  

Just a very simple script: 

"When you  ... say, do, or share an offensive piece ... or whatever. 

"I feel  ... disgust, revulsion, insulted, nauseated ... or whatever. 

"I want you to ... stop, quit, apologize, discontinue, ... or whatever. 

"If you don't ... stop, I will block your site ... or whatever. 

Just remember, 7,200,803,677 other human beings inhabit the Earth and you don't have to put up with any one!!!!! 

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 20, 2013 at 7:29pm

Loren, your music selections refresh me. You have a real ear for beautiful sounds, calm moods, I like your offerings very much. Thanks. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on December 20, 2013 at 6:46pm

I saw this today and it seems to be particularity appropriate right now. 

Comment by Loren Miller on December 20, 2013 at 6:19pm

To those who wish to assert that shaming religions as silly and not real is not okay:

  • Have you actually READ your holy book?
  • Have you seen some of the utterly ridiculous things it asserts?
    • Talking donkeys and snakes
    • People who live for centuries
    • Creation that took seven days (with no evidentiary support) as opposed to 13.7 billion years (and enormous volumes of evidence)
    • Proscriptions for things like pork, shellfish, and wearing clothes made of two different materials
    • Too many other things to name
  • Are you prepared to offer satisfactory proof that they are for real?

If not, we suggest you either get used to it ... or rethink your attachment to a ridiculous, millennia-old myth.

Comment by Loren Miller on December 19, 2013 at 9:24pm

More delicious music from my all-time favorite jazz ensemble, Oregon:

Comment by sk8eycat on December 19, 2013 at 5:19pm

Oh, that is SO true!  My best friend for the last 10 years is a man  in DC...we talk on the phone a lot, but we've never met face to face, or I would have hugged him and never let go.  We"met" on an atheist forum that no longer exists.  I have 2 or 3 longtime friends from that forum, and we all keep each other hanging onto life when things get rough.

I just thought of a line from one of Armistead Maupin's "Tales of the City" books, "I'd rather have 5 good friends than one mediocre lover."  I've got the friends...gave up on lovers so long ago I can't remember who the last one was; just that he was worse than average.

Tee-hee!

Comment by Ian Mason on December 19, 2013 at 4:18am

Happy solstice all :-)

Just got home from my night shift and a good workout so these ARE my plans for the day.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 19, 2013 at 1:51am

sk8eycat, you are a treasure; I got goose bumps all over again when I read your celebration of my news.

You have so many challenges, it is a wonder you keep your keen sense of humor. Having good health care from "an artist" makes such a great difference and you deserve it. Your description of petting Lyle immediately after your surgery and feeling his hair evokes visions of what can happen and should happen in our health delivery system. 

Comment by sk8eycat on December 19, 2013 at 12:39am

Joan, no...my hands started becoming arthritic when I was in my early  40s, and it may have been tendons or ligaments getting hung up on calcium deposits in my fingers.  Also, I had a condition called hyperparthyroidism...a rogue parathyroid gland was drawing calcium out of my bones, and depositing it where it didn't belong...all over my body (and expelling some of it through my kidneys).  A LOT of the deposits slowly went away after I had surgery in 1992, and so did symptoms like trigger finger. 

Oh!  I forgot!  I had carpal tunnel syndrome in both hands, too.  I had the right hand fixed (they wanted to do the left hand first, and I argued and argued till I finally wore them down) in 1993  because I desperately needed to go back to work, and my best office skill always was on the 10-key.  I was a whiz.

The amazing thing was that the carpal tunnel release was done as "day surgery." I wen in at 6AM, they worked on me starting at 11 AM, and I was alert and ready to go home by 2PM.  I was wearing a steel wrist brace wrapped with elastic bandage, but my fingers were free.  The first thing I did when I got home was pet Lyle, the ORNJ cat we had back then, and already I could feel the silky texture of his fur...every single hair...for the first time in years. I cried a little...for joy.

At that time I was going to a County (charity) hospital, and I can't praise the surgeons and nurses who took care of me enough.  The surgeons were senior residents from UCLA Medical School, and they were so gung-ho about finding out the cause of anything and everything,and fixing it.  Another surgeon that I met at a formal banquet a few years later told me that the one who did the parathyroid surgery was "an artist."  The scars from both operations are almost invisible, and always have been.

PS: I just read your good news!  YAYYYY!  CONGRAD-JULASHUNZ!!!  Ai iz sew happee 4 U!  HUGS to the nth degree!

(jumping up and down and singing!)

Have a VERY Sunny Solstice!

 

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