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Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly 13 hours ago. 15 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Tuesday. 2 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

A moment to relax and see the Earth from space; some how this comforts me.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev on Sunday. 3 Replies

All the squabbles and struggles that I have do not compare with those of some others on this great planet. There are no boundary lines, no political arguments, no up or no down. What is, is. For right now, the scenes offer tranquility. Just the…Continue

Tags: and, wonder, awe, of, space

His Dark Materials and the Catholic Church

Started by Tonya R. Wheeler. Last reply by Plinius on Sunday. 27 Replies

I recently watched the movie, "The Golden Compass" and since I could not find the sequels, I read the books. I enjoyed them, and I will be reading the first one, Northern Lights, starting tomorrow, since it just arrived via inter-library…Continue

Tags: Fantasy, Catholic, Religion, Atheist, Pullman

Issues Atheist, Feminist, GLBTQ, Climate Change

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 6. 2 Replies

This is a test Continue

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 29. 39 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

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Comment by Joan Denoo on March 19, 2014 at 12:19pm

Carl, I am so happy to learn of your concern for your expected little boy into the family. In my experience, and you didn't ask, but you know me, I will have my say, whether wanted or not. 

Circumcision has become a cultural thing, far beyond religion. It is like so many things we do that have become part of what I call ABCTDs of life: Attitudes, Beliefs, Customs, Traditions, and Values. They become institutionalized in society completely forgetting it was a device to separate "us" from "them". It is not necessary and not recommended by enlightened doctors and professionals. 

Good for you for being concerned, and for having a library of films you can use as part of your reasoning. 

As usual, my approach is honesty, with concrete reasoning to support your decision. Some do not like my directness, but to be perfectly frank, I see no benefit in pussyfooting around important topics. 

I know you to be a gentle person, and will not overwhelm her with your power, but will use carefully thought out reasons for your point of view. You will do an outstanding job of walking with her through this very important time in her life.


Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on March 19, 2014 at 9:50am

Ian is right

A little bit of pressure on a nerve can cause pain a long way away.

Pinched nerves in my spine make pain go all the way down my arm into my hand. Sometimes the lower extremity pain is the first  in a flare up. I get some control over the problem with daily neck stretching for 12 minutes.

My husband and I are debt free, too. We have a modest lifestyle so our social security and my pension meets our needs.

Comment by Plinius on March 19, 2014 at 2:45am

I'd love to say that, that I have very little debt, but it's not horrible either: half our apartment belongs to the bank.

How to open the discussion with your niece - quite a problem! "Live and let live", has the baby no rights? Perhaps you can start with info about the risks?

Comment by The Flying Atheist on March 19, 2014 at 2:16am

I have very little debt at the moment, and that should be cleared up pretty soon.  However, I'd like to purchase a condo sometime later this year.  If I end up going through with that plan, I'll be taking on a huge financial responsibility for years to come.  I just really want a place to call my own, and now seems to be a good time to make real estate purchases.  And my job appears to be much more stable for the first time in quite a few years, so I feel confident in making this commitment.  I shall see.    

On an unrelated note, it was recently announced in my family that my niece here in Chicago, who is in her mid-twenties, is pregnant and will be having a son.  I now have to figure out an acceptable, but non-creepy, non-pushy, and tactful way to broach the subject with her about not having the baby circumcised.  I don't like to push my unsolicited views on her about such a personal topic, but I have a very strong opinion regarding keeping babies intact.  I'm pretty much a "live and let live" type of person, but I'd like to make sure she is educated on the subject.  She doesn't appear to be overly religious and I don't believe she as attended church regularly for any significant portion of her life.  We've never had any conversations about religion, so I'm not 100% sure about her spiritual views.  I've saved some YouTube videos over the years that are related to the topic of circumcision, so I have those ready to go as part of my arsenal.  Beyond that, I'm at a loss for a strategy to get the conversation started.      

Comment by Ian Mason on March 19, 2014 at 12:22am

Almost debt-free, Melinda. Congrats. I've found that situation to be a good one as there's more time and energy to take care of the important things in life, like people. Hope your son's problem is resolved soon.

Patricia, back problems can give pain almost anywhere because the nerves to the reat of the body pass through the spine. A little bit of pressure on a nerve can cause pain a long way away.

I'm off now. See you soon :-) Take care of yourselves.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 18, 2014 at 11:58pm

Mindy, Unsettling news about the difficulty diagnosing your son's knee problem. 

You are so very wise to have gotten rid of your debts so young. You will not realize how important that is until you get nearer retirement age and have to face the reality of current economic situations. Things are not going to get better any time soon. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on March 18, 2014 at 11:22pm

Melinda, in my inexpert medical opinion, I would guess that only having swelling is a better situation to be in than having a buildup of fluid.  Of course, I'm not a doctor.  I don't even play one on TV.  Just curious.  Is the swelling causing pain?  In any case, I hope your son gets answers and subsequent treatment soon.  And congratulations on your family's financial health.  You are a rare breed and you are to be commended.

Comment by sk8eycat on March 18, 2014 at 11:14pm

O, my nerves! How terrible!

That reminds me SO much of the time Gary Powers' KNBC news-chopper crashed here in the Valley.  He ran out of fuel because he spent too much time covering a fire up near Santa Barbara.  Ironic...he survived his U-2 being shot down in 1960,but not this:

According to Powers' son, an aviation mechanic had repaired a faulty fuel gauge without telling Powers, who misread it. At the last moment he noticed children playing in the area, and directed the helicopter elsewhere to prevent their deaths. If not for the last second deviation, which compromised his autorotative descent, he might have landed safely.

He was sort of a neighbor for a year or two when I lived in a 4-story "party" apt. bldg.  He did NOT party with the rest of us...he stayed in his penthouse most of the time. That was 1965-66, he was still recovering from the trauma of the whole USSR business.

Anyway, whenever I hear of a helicopter crash I think of him.  He was a good local newsman after he came out of his shell.

Comment by sk8eycat on March 18, 2014 at 7:42pm

Meliinda, that is very strange about your son's knee.  I thought he'd already had a thorough MRI done...wouldn't that have shown whether the swelling was fluid/blood or tissue?  (I've had MRIs of my spine and neck, and I'm always amazed at the detail that shows up in the images...including a little goiter I didn't know I had...)

As for the debt (almost) payoff....CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Comment by sk8eycat on March 18, 2014 at 2:03pm

If you read Spider Robinson's Callahan's Place short story collections, you'll find out that Tuesday (night) is/was ALWAYS Punday.  The teller of the worst pun (they were also usually shaggy dog stories) had his or her tab for the night refunded. 

Nice custom.

Try Callahan's Crosstime Saloon.


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