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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on April 27, 2015 at 8:59pm

Carl - so good to have you back among us! Isn't it ironic how people making all the inane religious comments sincerely think they're helping. My favorite comeback (which I have to confess I've never had the nerve to use) when someone says "I'll pray for you" is Hitchens' - "I'll think for you." I attended a memorial service for an uncle in Minnesota last week and had to endure my share of "better place" remarks, but I'm sure I wasn't nearly as inundated as you were going through your procedures. Best of luck in your healing!

Comment by Pat on April 27, 2015 at 5:45pm

Been behind on posting here at A|N. Have some major trials coming up soon, and have been busier than the one legged man in the proverbial contest.

Carl, Welcome back. Glad to see your heart surgery went well hope you continue to improve.

Joan, sorry to hear about your recent broken arm and illness. But, like Carl, glad to see you back.

I guess it just proves the old adage. "Getting old ain't for sissies."

Comment by Ian Mason on April 27, 2015 at 3:19pm

The Socratic method, Joan. Help people to explore what they really believe and what they really know. Here in Denmark religion is not introduced unless a patient asks for a minister of religion. Very sensible.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 27, 2015 at 2:19pm

carl, i know the feeling! I got a lot of that.

Loggers and sawmill people live in the area. many fundamentalists work at the Newport hospital. When I heard,"I'll prey for you" I responded with questions.

"From where do you get your confidece?

"What assure you it is worthy of believing?

"Why is that a valid reference?"

"Why do you not ask the tough questions?"

"How do you know that is a fact?"

Where, what, why, how, when. all present the possibity of throwing a seed into the air and may land on fertile soil.

Any question a good interviewer would ask to get them thinking works. Don't answer the question yourself.

If they ask a question, see if you can reframe it into a question for them.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 27, 2015 at 12:49pm

I used Grammarly to make corrections:

Spud, good for you! Anti-depressants do a valuable job for chemical depression when cognitive therapy doesn't work. Religious type therapy can help some people,but I have never seen it. Many of my students tried to make religion work, and I taught them mindfulness, meditation, cognitive techniques and as far as I know, they were relieved.

Learning life-skills develops a tool kit for facing life's challenges - no prayers, no mumbo jumbo, no whining, no letting go-letting god.

There is one other correction needed:
"Some people can be helped."
Grammarly finds passive voices, and I want to write in the active voice. So, I rewrote into the actve voice

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 27, 2015 at 12:23pm

Spud, good for you! anti depressant do a valuable job for chemical depression when cognatve therapy doesnt work. S porple can be helped with religeous tyapy, but i have never seen it.

I typed this with me rght hand using the hunt and peck method.

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 27, 2015 at 12:10pm

I had a doctor that I quit because he kept talking about god.  The final straw was when he said "Science will never figure-out the brain, because that is the province of god."

Glad I never took the anti-depressants he recommended.

I wonder if he was a muslim.  I think he came from a muslim country.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 27, 2015 at 11:23am
Ugh! The "I'll pray for you" sentiment drives me batty. And just last week, I was having a conversation with the dialysis nurse and I told him that my sister is my kidney donor. He said, that's wonderful! That's why god gave us two kidneys, so we can give one away as a gift.
I was at a loss of words that someone could say something so ridiculous and be totally serious.
Major facepalm moment.
Comment by Joan Denoo on April 27, 2015 at 11:22am

Randy, I share your rage when family members believe such nonsense. I like Peter Bogosian's approach. Have you read his "manual for creating atheists"?

My cousin's husband and I have a very friendly debate that has been going on for years. He presents me with a statement of faith and I give him my response. The next time I see him he gives me a beautiful or whimsical birdhouse. I adore them. 

He and his cousin and a group of men who regularly meet conspire to find the next statement. iIt is great fun!

Comment by Plinius on April 27, 2015 at 11:03am

You'll be glad that we're not praying at you, Carl  =^.^=

 

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