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Degrees of Doubt: The Claims and Credentials of Ravi Zacharias (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris May 17. 1 Reply

Anyone here ever run onto an apologist by the name of Ravi Zacharias?  I've seen his name dropped multiple times on YouTube as supposedly being THE ONE APOLOGIST that no atheist wants to cross swords with, because of his facility with christian…Continue

Tags: Ravi Zacharias, Steve Baughman, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Most Hated Woman in America (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Gary S Apr 19. 7 Replies

Before Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty, before Dawkins or Dennett or Harris or even Hitchens, there was Madalyn Murray O'Hair.  In the midst of an America where Christianity was being flaunted as a defense against the godless communists of the Soviet…Continue

Tags: Frank Zindler, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Madalyn Murray O'Hair

Proud Dad is REALLY Proud Now!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Todd Williams Apr 12. 16 Replies

As some of you may or may not know, my daughter is a television news producer, currently working in Nashville, Tennessee.  Her assignment is the morning news, which means she blasts herself up at umpti-ump in the morning to organize and prepare a…Continue

Tags: Emmy, news, television, daughter, dad

attacking ideas (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 1 Reply

Attacking ideas is a considerable portion of what we as atheists do.  Why attack ideas?  Ideas earn attack when they don't serve people, not just us but those who adopt said ideas, mistakenly thinking that they have value when they don't.  Our…Continue

Tags: ideas, Islam, TheraminTrees

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 40 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

The Playboy Interview: Richard Dawkins

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 28. 16 Replies

I suppose it was the news that Playboy magazine was returning nudes to its pages after a year's hiatus that sufficiently perked my curiosity to check them out again.  I hadn't looked at Playboy since perhaps 2008, when I began to recognize that I…Continue

Tags: Richard Dawkins, Playboy

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Comment by Idaho Spud on April 7, 2014 at 7:27pm

Joan, I used to visit quite often, but now it's very uncomfortable, sad, and depressing.  I'm not good at socializing under normal conditions, and this family just seems too much for me.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 7, 2014 at 7:08pm

Spud, do you have opportunity to be with your nieces and nephews from time to time? The good news is, one day they will be grown and able to seek out other options, if they have an inkling there are others. Plant seeds when you can. 

All the neighbor kids spend a big part of their summers in my back yard with me. It was tough at first because two mormon families with large families, wouldn't let their kids come over because they know I am a non-believer. With all the other kids here, it became pretty hard for them to keep their kids away. The kids and I just enjoyed the garden and its critters and we didn't talk about beliefs, unless they asked me. I was honest with them about how I think, and I am sure they were questioned by their parents about our conversations. It worked out fine for me and the kids.

They are all growing up now and finding interests with their peers. I don't see them as much anymore. However, they do come by for a visit and "chin wag".  The next generation is still pretty young, just out of diapers, so I don't expect to see them here for another year or so. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 7, 2014 at 7:02pm

Joan, "When God was a Woman" sounds like an interesting historical book.

When I was a believer, I didn't think women were put-down by the mormon church, with the possible exception of polygamy.  However, now I see a lot of it.

I also agree with Arp that no one should be trained for a priesthood.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 7, 2014 at 6:58pm

Patricia, thank you for sharing your story. Thankfully, you didn't have to raise a whole bunch of kids; it is bad enough when you had to be the parent for your brother. Sadly, too many children have to parent their siblings with both mother and father working. That is too big a burden to place on a child. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 7, 2014 at 6:55pm

Arp, you make a very good point about no boy or girl should be trained for a priesthood. I had not thought about it in those terms. The real task of a mother and father is to raise each to be fully functioning as an adult, not as an adult who acts and thinks as a child. Every child needs that kind of training. 

Thanks for the feedback!

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 7, 2014 at 6:44pm

Glad you have some good news Mindy.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 7, 2014 at 6:42pm

Mindy, having the information about finding no cause for the pain at least tells you there are no neoplasms, or infections. Still, it doesn't define what causes his symptoms. You are correct, he is an adult and will make the decision that he figures out.  

As for anxiety or worry, don't forget they are worthless emotions, except to keep you alert to watch for things you need to see. In the meantime, be sure to develop a good relaxation routine. That doesn't happen by buying a book or tape. It happens by practicing, just like practicing a musical instrument. You have to train yourself to be able to play the Frederic Chopin's Scherzo No. 2 Op. 31

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 7, 2014 at 6:32pm

Arp, I believe you about not reading mainstream news. I have no TV, no papers or magazines delivered. I found that reporters do not get to the meat of issues and have become propaganda pieces to maintain and perpetuate the status quo. 

I do subscribe to many newsletters of interest to me and to some with which I do not agree. I like to keep up on the nonsense being pumped out on the internet, just so I can stay informed. 

This group of fine folks on AN are getting me to lighten up a bit and I read more of the funny stuff. I'm learning!

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 7, 2014 at 5:12pm

I'm often sad thinking of the children in my siblings families and their children's children.  They all continue to drink the mormon cook-aid in great quantities, wasting a lot of time as well as more than 10% of their gross income.

The worst family is my son-in-law's.  They are almost as bad as the Duggar family.  

They have religious pictures almost covering their walls, the children are restricted from playing with anyone except a very few that are as fundamentalist as they are, they are home-schooled, TV shows and movies are restricted to a very few G-rated ones, and they are taught to be greatly paranoid about sex.

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 7, 2014 at 4:42pm

Felaine, I've never heard of the Duggar family cult before.  The way those children are raised is very sad.

 

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