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A Powerful Message from an old wise teacher :

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Thomas Murray on Saturday. 5 Replies

I received a gift this morning from a virtual friend, Pamela Smith:A Powerful Message from an old wise teacher :" One day an old wise teacher was walking through a village. A very angry and rude young man came up and began insulting him. "You have…Continue

Speak English? YOU FIRST! (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Thomas Murray on Friday. 4 Replies

Honestly, the title to this piece is badly under-representative of the content.  To be far more accurate, what we have here is Mrs. Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, going on a rant.  Before you say it ... Say WHAAAA?  Betty Bowers ranting? …Continue

Tags: America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

A Prayer for Our Nation (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on Friday. 2 Replies

I'm going to keep this one short and sweet.  Mrs. Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, has seen what is going on with the current occupant of the Oval Office, and my impression is that she is not at all happy with it.  True to her citizenship,…Continue

Tags: prayer, Donald Trump, Oval Office, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Any Babymetal Fans Here?

Started by Bruce Carroll. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 12. 5 Replies

Any Babymetal fans here besides me? I have to ask because 1) I really like Babymetal and 2) Babymetal unknowingly played a role in my journey out of religion.For those who are unfamiliar with Babymetal, here is a link to one of their most popular…Continue

Tags: Japanese Idol, Babymetal

If you could rid the world of one thing, what would it be?

Started by Idaho Spud. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 11. 30 Replies

Today, I heard Seth Andrews talk about the question, "If you could rid the world of one thing, what would it be?"  My first thought was religion, but after a few seconds I decided it would be irrational or anti-scientific thinking.  That would take…Continue

Tags: anti-scientific, irrational

Ignorance is Bliss: Why Religious People Seem Happier Than the 'Nones'”.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 11. 16 Replies

“Highly Religious Volunteer More, Lie Less, and Claim to Be Happier”~ Houston Chronicle; “Strongly Religious People are Happier than Non-Religious”  ~ Christian Daily."The study determined that 40 percent of highly religious adults—defined as those…Continue

Tags: Nones, happiness, non-religiosity, religiosity, bliss

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Comment by kathy: ky on June 28, 2014 at 11:54pm
Love that cartoon Joan.
Comment by Joan Denoo on June 28, 2014 at 11:18pm

Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 28, 2014 at 10:03pm

Felaine, I found this online copy of Ingersoll's Some Mistakes of Moses.  Thanks for the recommendation.

https://archive.org/details/somemistakesmose00ingeuoft

Comment by sk8eycat on June 28, 2014 at 4:41pm

No, my Flying Friend, I don't have Susan Jacoby's book on American Freethought; I have a very battered old copy of the Orvin Larsen biography of Ingersoll, American Infidel.  It is still considered the best, most thoroughly researched (and footnoted), of all the biographies of the Great Agnostic of the 19th Century.

I have another one of Jacoby's books...something about "American Unreason;" I haven't been able to finish it...it's so depressing.

I doubt that Ingersoll would be able to hold an audience for 2+ hours today...our attention spans are much more limited and conditioned to the constant babble of sound bites and one-liners, and the constant need to get wherever we are going as quickly as possible (crammed into seats designed for skeletons), whether it's good for the environment and our psyches or not.

Sigh.  Off I go on another hobby-horse.

George Carlin was off to a good start, but his audiences were smaller (not counting his few HBO appearances), and he got off to a late start on his criticism of religion.  At least we have his recordings.... 

Lenny Bruce also did a short bit called "Religions Incorporated" that touched off a small firestorm here in SoCal, but it was about a local issue, and probably meant nothing to anyone outside of the Los Angeles area. (It was about the land that Dodger Stadium still occupies today...the JWs wanted it for a cemetery.)

So there have been short bursts of iconoclasm, but nothing as cogent and lasting as Ingersoll's 30-year career touring the contiguous US...even...or especially...in the buybull belt.  People hungered for his views on the absurdities of both testaments.  He was scathing about the addition of hell which was the only original contribution of xianity.

I could go on and on, but read Jacoby, and then try to find a (used) copy of American Infidel.  You can buy a new copy from the FFRF bookstore, but I prefer bargain-hunting at Half.com.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 28, 2014 at 2:12pm

Felaine, you must have forgotten about the ever-important and obviously true phrase, "With God, all things are possible." 

BTW, I have Susan Jacoby's book The Great Agnostic, Robert Ingersoll and American Freethought here in my pile of books waiting to be read.  It came highly recommended.  Have you read it?

Comment by sk8eycat on June 28, 2014 at 12:14pm

Mindy, whoever created that meme for Cheezburger should have phrased it "ILLITERATE tribal goat herders."  Because they were.

150 years ago Robert Ingersoll (and others) pointed out that Moses could not possibly have written the Pentateuch because, at the time of the non-exodus, the Hebrews had no written language.  So the fabled stone tablets of the 10 Demands would have been unreadable, among other things.

I keep mentioning Ingersoll in here because he was a phenomenon, considered by many (including his enemies) as the greatest orator at a time when that was considered a high art, not just for what he said, but the way that he said it.  People hung from girders and jammed SRO sections of large venues to hear him speak for 2 hours or more on subjects that are still considered (by some) as shocking.

"Some Mistakes of Moses" is one of his best, most popular lectures, and it's available in trade paperback as a separate book.  Well worth reading, and keeping.  In it he shreds, slices, and dices the first 5 books of the buybull; good stuff to have on hand when confronted by fundamentalists of any persuasion.  Or just for laughs.

He was an iconoclast, but he was also very much the gentleman.  We need him today.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 28, 2014 at 8:58am

Mindy, your post didn't come onto my wall, but the link was in the incoming mail. Perfect statement! I am reposting. Thanks. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 27, 2014 at 12:32pm

Randall, yes! and he was bold, not afraid to take risks, refused to submit to intimidation. My worst enemies in my fight against family violence was and is my family. They want me to remain silent. Get over it, they say, and move on. The problem is, too many men and women submit to the imperative that men should dominate ... women and nature. 

Well, you and I know where that gets us. We need to be spokespeople for those too timid or too indoctrinated to face the truth of human-caused climate change, oppression of women, domination by wealth in our political arena as well as our economic and beliefs domains. 

Comment by Randall Smith on June 27, 2014 at 7:06am

Ol' Theo (he didn't like being called Teddy) was a Democrat in Republican clothes. He was one of my presidential heroes. He could certainly write!

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 26, 2014 at 8:55pm

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." 

~ Theodore Roosevelt, The man in the arena, excerpt from the speech “Citizenship in a Republic”, delivered at the Sorbonne, in Paris, France on 23 April 12010.  

 

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