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Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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A Prayer for Our Nation (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Patricia on Tuesday. 1 Reply

I'm going to keep this one short and sweet.  Mrs. Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, has seen what is going on with the current occupant of the Oval Office, and my impression is that she is not at all happy with it.  True to her citizenship,…Continue

Tags: prayer, Donald Trump, Oval Office, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Any Babymetal Fans Here?

Started by Bruce Carroll. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 12. 5 Replies

Any Babymetal fans here besides me? I have to ask because 1) I really like Babymetal and 2) Babymetal unknowingly played a role in my journey out of religion.For those who are unfamiliar with Babymetal, here is a link to one of their most popular…Continue

Tags: Japanese Idol, Babymetal

If you could rid the world of one thing, what would it be?

Started by Idaho Spud. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 11. 30 Replies

Today, I heard Seth Andrews talk about the question, "If you could rid the world of one thing, what would it be?"  My first thought was religion, but after a few seconds I decided it would be irrational or anti-scientific thinking.  That would take…Continue

Tags: anti-scientific, irrational

Ignorance is Bliss: Why Religious People Seem Happier Than the 'Nones'”.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 11. 16 Replies

“Highly Religious Volunteer More, Lie Less, and Claim to Be Happier”~ Houston Chronicle; “Strongly Religious People are Happier than Non-Religious”  ~ Christian Daily."The study determined that 40 percent of highly religious adults—defined as those…Continue

Tags: Nones, happiness, non-religiosity, religiosity, bliss

Eating Our Own: How You Can Save the Movement (David Smalley | The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Daniel W Aug 27. 11 Replies

While I've been peripherally aware of him for a while, David Smalley has not spent much time in the center of my focus when it came to scoping out atheist material on YouTube or elsewhere ... at least up until now.  His talk – Eating Our Own – came…Continue

Tags: Seth Andrews, The Thinking Atheist, Eating Our Own, David Smalley

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Comment by Thomas Murray on July 14, 2017 at 6:57pm

Joan,

Looking at your pictures of your garden I felt like a kid again exploring bugs and insects in a magical forest....

Comment by Thomas Murray on July 14, 2017 at 6:44pm

When the theory that "All Christian Men are Self-Correcting" goes down the tubes.....

https://www.amazon.com/Pornography-Battle-Every-Christian-Husband-e...

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 14, 2017 at 6:39pm

For everyone's Friday reading enjoyment, here's some splendiferous logic from an author of crank mail to the Freedom from Religion Foundation: [My bolding]

Why?: If you don’t believe in God (which we know that is not true because the Bible makes explicitly clear that every person believes in God, Romans 1) but since you like to pretend you don’t believe. Why would you be committed to stopping religion. If its not true then why bother. The very fact that you fight against religion is evidence of your belief. You know the God of the Holy Bible is real. Please repent of your sin and turn to Jesus Christ. — Daniel V."

Comment by Thomas Murray on July 14, 2017 at 6:07pm

The elephants trunk again proved useful as a snorkel. That is amazing.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on July 14, 2017 at 5:47pm

Interesting elephant rescue, thanks! Loved the sleep study comic, having done the old fashioned ones twice. This last sleep study I was able to do at home, with a small strap-on device that measured breathing, in my own home. The improvement in technology is fantastic. Your point about "self correcting" male abusers is well taken, Loren.

Comment by Loren Miller on July 14, 2017 at 5:19pm

Regarding that Christian Domestic Discipline BS, my instant question was: "What about when the men screw up?"  I see it was handled in the Daily Beast article:

And do men have any of these defects? Who is there to correct them? “He’s not perfect,” Vera says, “but it’s not my role to point that out. He self corrects.”

"Self-corrects?"  In other words, the fox is guarding the chicken coop.  Wouldn't bother me at all to see a properly trained woman use one of those assholes for martial arts sparring practice ... the kind where the punches aren't pulled!

Comment by The Flying Atheist on July 14, 2017 at 4:46pm

Here's a little interesting story.

 

Elephant rescued at sea, nearly 10 miles from shore

I didn't know elephants were such good swimmers (when not fighting against a riptide.) 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on July 14, 2017 at 4:41pm

Joan you're lucky to be surrounded by such lush and beautiful greenery.  

Comment by Ian Mason on July 14, 2017 at 12:49pm

Those are lovely gardens, Joan.

Congratulations on your escape from physical and moral abuse and on gaining a life of contentment and activity. You rock, as we youngsters of 60 say.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 14, 2017 at 11:44am

Thomas, I had a good laugh when I saw your citations. Religion blinds one to believe in dogma and to ignore evidence. 

Oh yes! I  was a Christian wife and mother during the abuse. I had to pack my three kids, two mother cats, and their kittens, along with pillows, blankets, a slow cooker and run 2,000 miles to get free of abuse. My religious community in Spokane that I had belonged to for probably 20 years, tried to teach me how to accept abuse. 

Fuck off you snakes in the grass!

I lost my marriage, church community, and some family members when I left and it was worth it!

Oh yes! I had been through the James Dobson discipline class, I had learned to "yield, pray, forgive, to turn the other cheek, and love my abuser to the Lord!" 

I called these words, "the passive gospel" when I wrote my Masters thesis, and "assault is assault" for my Doctoral Dissertation. 

I have been out of that marriage for 43 years, now. What a gift I received when I ran away from my problems. Sure, I had a new set of problems, but they were manageable. I worked full time, went through my training full time, and raised my three children to adulthood.  

Here is an album of my garden that I created from scratch, starting in 1974

My Spokane Garden

And here is my new garden at L&L Acres

l-l-paradise-acres-greenhouse-june-11-2017

I'm 81 years old now, living with my daughter and her husband, and happy as a Lady Bug in a field of aphids. Laura and Larry built me a beautiful greenhouse and provide everything I need, including love and affection. 

 

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