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Degrees of Doubt: The Claims and Credentials of Ravi Zacharias (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris May 17. 1 Reply

Anyone here ever run onto an apologist by the name of Ravi Zacharias?  I've seen his name dropped multiple times on YouTube as supposedly being THE ONE APOLOGIST that no atheist wants to cross swords with, because of his facility with christian…Continue

Tags: Ravi Zacharias, Steve Baughman, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Most Hated Woman in America (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Gary S Apr 19. 7 Replies

Before Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty, before Dawkins or Dennett or Harris or even Hitchens, there was Madalyn Murray O'Hair.  In the midst of an America where Christianity was being flaunted as a defense against the godless communists of the Soviet…Continue

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Proud Dad is REALLY Proud Now!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Todd Williams Apr 12. 16 Replies

As some of you may or may not know, my daughter is a television news producer, currently working in Nashville, Tennessee.  Her assignment is the morning news, which means she blasts herself up at umpti-ump in the morning to organize and prepare a…Continue

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attacking ideas (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 1 Reply

Attacking ideas is a considerable portion of what we as atheists do.  Why attack ideas?  Ideas earn attack when they don't serve people, not just us but those who adopt said ideas, mistakenly thinking that they have value when they don't.  Our…Continue

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bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 40 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

The Playboy Interview: Richard Dawkins

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 28. 16 Replies

I suppose it was the news that Playboy magazine was returning nudes to its pages after a year's hiatus that sufficiently perked my curiosity to check them out again.  I hadn't looked at Playboy since perhaps 2008, when I began to recognize that I…Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on March 1, 2014 at 2:37am

I have driven across the US on I-90 that drops south to join I-80 as it goes south of Lake Michigan, bypassing Chicago. I have made that trip several times as we search the northern tier of the U.S. for places my ancestors lived. Driving was so crowded, I had all I could do to keep the car from going into the wrong lane and didn't see much. As we got farther away from the heavy traffic I was able to look at the terrain and notice the effects of the glaciation on the landscape south of the Great Lakes. On one trip I went from Spokane to Boston on I-90. 

I didn't go into downtown Chicago, but according to your film, and other scenes of the city, it is quite remarkable. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 1, 2014 at 2:14am

What a nice memory you give me. Yes, I was there that year. Spokane had some very incredible people in those days, Ed Lindaman being just one. They were environmentalists and got us started to thinking "In the Future Tense", one of Ed's books. It was a time of great enthusiasm for living closer to the Earth. Ed started a program at Whitworth University that was called Nutrition 1985: Recipes fo alternative eating. It was designed to eat lower on the food chain and secure food produced closer to local markets. He also started an architecture program designed to have houses smaller, in smaller communities so that people could walk to work or to markets for food. He also envisioned mass transit with the goal of getting more cars off the roads. It caught on for a while and spread to other universities. Then it just petered out. 

You may remember our lovely river and the city park that follows the river through town. Before Expo '74 it was a railroad line through town with railroad tracks, smelly air, and the whole strip was pawn shops, brothels, taverns, and looked like skid row. 

A man by the name of King Cole spearheaded the project, to the great consternation of working class tax payers. He had a vision and a small community of people who shared his vision. Thus, Expo '74. 

Those progressive men and women have mostly moved on to other towns and we have reverted back to the conservative, religious, right wing political group that keeps us bound to the status quo. 

If, by any chance, you went to Manito Park and Botanical Gardens, which was part of the city tour for Expo, I live just one block east of the park. A lovely place designed by John Charles Olmsted, designer of New York's Central Park. Spokane was a wealthy mining and lumbering town and had tremendous wealth. Those days are over with the mines and forests petering out. 

Manito Park

Comment by The Flying Atheist on March 1, 2014 at 1:48am

Hi, Ian.  That's a funny comic.  How are you, friend? 

Comment by Ian Mason on March 1, 2014 at 1:11am

Comment by The Flying Atheist on March 1, 2014 at 12:23am

Joan, have you ever visited Chicago?  I was in Spokane a long time ago,  It was 1974,  I was 10 years old and was there for the World's Fair, Expo '74.  One of the big memories I took away that made a really huge impression on me growing up was the theme of ecology, the environment and stopping pollution.  It pains me to see in the past 40 years how we've squandered so many of our natural resources and damaged our environment.  Sure, we've had some great technological breakthroughs to lessen the human impact on earth, but we're always playing catch-up.  And dealing with these important issues never seems to be on the front burner.  

What I remember from the fair:   

The United States Pavilion from Expo '74

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 28, 2014 at 11:34pm

Carl, like you, I am not afraid of the "end-times" as told by Revelations, I am afraid of the corruption of the Earth by human caused pollution and the natural changes taking place. You, in Chicago, and me, in Spokane, experience some mighty changes taking place that may foretell a far more dangerous future than we can even imagine.

I very much like your Chicago film. A beautiful city.  

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 28, 2014 at 11:27pm

Some die-hard religionists want the story told their way. What is the big deal, it is a myth retold in the 21st century with a modern bias, just like Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on February 28, 2014 at 9:57pm

I love time-lapse films and I love Chicago,  So please permit me to share the following for your viewing pleasure:

Chicago Timelapse Project - Windy City Nights from Max Wilson on Vimeo.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on February 28, 2014 at 9:35pm

Yes, Sk8eycat, I heard about the objections by xtians to the Noah movie, saying that the movie didn't faithfully follow the story in Genesis.  These nutcases are un-F'ing believable!  And of course the film studio is going to kow tow to their demands.  The films' only audience market is the religious, and they were hinting at boycotting the film because of the lack of "historical accuracy."  It was purely a financial decision for the studio.  I'm telling you, with religion on the decline, I'm not worried about the 'end times', I'm worried about the 'crazy times' that will come about as a result of the religious grasping to hold on to their fading influence. 

Comment by sk8eycat on February 28, 2014 at 8:42pm

All I'm really concerned about is the snow level in the Sierra Nevada Mtns.  That's where most of our water comes from.
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To change the subject, did anyone see this article about some fundies having a hissy-fit ver a movie about "Noah"...someone who never lived through a flood that never happened...

http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-news/noah-disclaimer-forced-rel...

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IMO all buybulls should carry disclaimers that they are works of fiction, etc, and so on.  (And most xians seem to think the Charlton Heston version of the "10 commandments" is a documentary...including my JW sister.  Gack!)

 

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