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A Prayer for Our Nation (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Patricia 13 hours ago. 1 Reply

I'm going to keep this one short and sweet.  Mrs. Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, has seen what is going on with the current occupant of the Oval Office, and my impression is that she is not at all happy with it.  True to her citizenship,…Continue

Tags: prayer, Donald Trump, Oval Office, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Any Babymetal Fans Here?

Started by Bruce Carroll. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 12. 5 Replies

Any Babymetal fans here besides me? I have to ask because 1) I really like Babymetal and 2) Babymetal unknowingly played a role in my journey out of religion.For those who are unfamiliar with Babymetal, here is a link to one of their most popular…Continue

Tags: Japanese Idol, Babymetal

If you could rid the world of one thing, what would it be?

Started by Idaho Spud. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 11. 30 Replies

Today, I heard Seth Andrews talk about the question, "If you could rid the world of one thing, what would it be?"  My first thought was religion, but after a few seconds I decided it would be irrational or anti-scientific thinking.  That would take…Continue

Tags: anti-scientific, irrational

Ignorance is Bliss: Why Religious People Seem Happier Than the 'Nones'”.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 11. 16 Replies

“Highly Religious Volunteer More, Lie Less, and Claim to Be Happier”~ Houston Chronicle; “Strongly Religious People are Happier than Non-Religious”  ~ Christian Daily."The study determined that 40 percent of highly religious adults—defined as those…Continue

Tags: Nones, happiness, non-religiosity, religiosity, bliss

Eating Our Own: How You Can Save the Movement (David Smalley | The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Daniel W Aug 27. 11 Replies

While I've been peripherally aware of him for a while, David Smalley has not spent much time in the center of my focus when it came to scoping out atheist material on YouTube or elsewhere ... at least up until now.  His talk – Eating Our Own – came…Continue

Tags: Seth Andrews, The Thinking Atheist, Eating Our Own, David Smalley

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Comment by Grinning Cat on July 12, 2017 at 3:33pm

Joan, are you sure the second premise in your syllogisms below is quite true? :) :)

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 12, 2017 at 2:51pm

Plinius, you fairly caught me in another overgeneralization. Thanks! One would think I am over that by now! But NO! I keep segmenting them into categories. I hope I am the one to catch me next time. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 12, 2017 at 2:41pm

@Ruth Anthony-Gardner on Sunday 

"I depend upon sensory evidence. All scientific evidence depends upon use of the senses. Insistence on using the senses, excluding for example "evidence" from dreams and faith, is fundamental.'

I am glad you caught me on my statement about the use of senses. I use dreams when searching for an answer to a question. Usually, a day or two of pros and cons thinking, then I have a dream that makes the answer seem clear. 

I was raised to deny my senses; I developed an "I can't be right!" mentality and it was corroborated by parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins. We had a family system that relied on ancient texts for guidance and family traditions. That was until I stopped thinking as a child, at 37 years old, and started thinking as an adult. 

I have stronger techniques now on how to make a decision and a stronger sense of self and a growing sense of competence. I take responsibility for the consequences of my decisions and take pride in my growing skills. I rely on authority figures too much even as I have a higher criterion for making choices. I like double-blind research and look for flaws in research design. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 12, 2017 at 1:06pm

I just found-out the state I live in lets more children die because of faith-based medical neglect than in any other state.  Disgusting! 

http://idahochildren.org

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 12, 2017 at 7:06am

The Fugs are back, with a vengeance!

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on July 11, 2017 at 10:12am

Joan, I just tried to post a comic in Politics, economics & religion and the link to it didn't work. So here it is instead.

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Comment by Ian Mason on July 10, 2017 at 1:53am

Quite right, Joan. There is no void or vacuum if we use even a part of our thinking capacities.

Ruth and Joan: the old 'rationalism' vs 'empiricism' debate. I tend to side with the latter, particularly with David Hume.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hume

Unfortunately, modern philosophy, unable to change the world, has chosen rationalism's ever-diminishing circles and has disappeared up its own ivory tower.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on July 9, 2017 at 4:55pm

Joan, I agree with "My philosophy of life is totally satisfying and does not include any characteristics of the supernatural.", but in addition to reason I depend upon sensory evidence. All scientific evidence depends upon use of the senses. Insistence on using the senses, excluding for example "evidence" from dreams and faith, is fundamental.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 9, 2017 at 3:15pm

I feel no spiritual void when I reject religion. My philosophy of life is totally satisfying and does not include any characteristics of the supernatural.

I am a rationalist, I regard reason as the chief source and test of knowledge. My method to find truth is not sensory but intellectual and deductive. 

By deductive reasoning I mean I reason from one or more premises to reach a logically certain conclusion, i.e. 

Premise 1) All humans are mortal. 

Premise 2) Trump is a human. 

Conclusion) Trump is mortal. 

Premise 1) All humans are moral. (invalid)

Premise 2) Trump is a human. 

Conclusion) Trump is moral. (invalid)

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 9, 2017 at 5:22am

Interesting post Thomas.

 

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