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Are You a Patriot? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by k.h. ky 2 hours ago. 18 Replies

You might think that Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, would be stepping outside of her comfort zone in tackling the concept of patriotism.  As it turns out, not only does she have a proper handle on the term and its implications, she also…Continue

Tags: patriot, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

We Don't Want Your (Atheist) Money! (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat yesterday. 11 Replies

I suppose I've heard stories like this before:Conscientious atheist donates money to worthy cause.Worthy cause initially accepts money.Worthy cause discovers source of donation.Worthy cause rejects donation.Swell, eh?  Well Matt Willbourne of…Continue

Tags: American Baptist Churches Association, Murrow Indian Children's Home, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Ark Encounter: A Less than Grand Opening (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat on Monday. 24 Replies

The day finally arrived.  Ken Ham's Ark Encounter opened on 7 July, 2016 ... to something a bit less than Disney-sized crowds, and more than a couple dissenting voices!  Seth Andrews has gathered a quartet of significant participants in the protest…Continue

Tags: Tracey Moody, Dan Broadbent, Seth Andrews, David Silverman, AronRa

Surreal, I haz it

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Aug 14. 91 Replies

Surreal, not just found in art.Continue

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Wedding Haka - Subtitled & translated

Started by Joan Denoo Aug 13. 0 Replies

I ran across a video of a wedding in which a group of wedding guests celebrated with a performance of a traditional Māori ancestral war dance, called a Haka. It was intended for sons, however, the women have joined in a participation of…Continue

Tags: new, traditions., women, men, Haka

Onward (Unpaid) Christian Soldiers (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris G Aug 13. 1 Reply

Proselytizing in the military is a dirty little secret most radical christians would rather didn't get out.  Well, never let it be said that America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, was ever a wallflower where a pit bull was needed!  In the following…Continue

Tags: Military Religious Freedom Foundation, MRFF, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

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Comment by Joan Denoo on February 6, 2016 at 12:55am

"Either Theism is true or false. If true, discussion must help to spread its influence; if false, the sooner it ceases to influence human conduct the better for human kind. "

A Plea for Atheism, Charles Bradlaugh , Page 17

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 6, 2016 at 12:35am

"What does Christian Theism teach? That the first man, made perfect by the all-powerful, all-wise, all-good God, was nevertheless imperfect, and by his imperfection brought misery into the world, where the all-good God must have intended misery should never come; that this God made men to share this misery — men whose fault was their being what he made them; that this God begets a son, who is nevertheless his unbegotten self, and that by belief in the birth of God’s eternal son, and in the death of the undying who died as sacrifice to God’s vengeance, men may escape the consequences of the first man’s error. Christian Theism declares that belief alone can save man, and yet recognises the fact that man’s belief results from teaching, by establishing missionary societies to spread the faith. Christian Theism teaches that God, though no respecter of persons, selected as his favorite one nation in preference to all others; that man can do no good of himself or without God’s aid, but yet that each man has a free will; that God is all-powerful, but that few go to heaven, and the majority to hell; that all are to love God, who has predestined from eternity that by far the largest number of human beings are to be burning in hell for ever. Yet the advocates for Theism venture to upbraid those who argue against such a faith."

A Plea for Atheism, Charles Bradlaugh , Page 17

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 6, 2016 at 12:29am

"The more ignorant the Theist, the more numerous his Gods. Belief in God is not a faith founded on reason. Theism is worse than illogical; its teachings are not only without utility, but of itself it has nothing to teach. Separated from Christianity with its almost innumerable sects, from Muhammadanism with its numerous divisions, and separated also from every other preached system, Theism is a will-o’-the-wisp, without reality. Apart from orthodoxy, Theism is the veriest dreamform, without substance or coherence."

A Plea for Atheism, Charles Bradlaugh, page 16

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 6, 2016 at 12:21am

"Every Theist must admit that if a God exists, he could have so convinced all men of the fact of his existence that doubt, disagreement, or disbelief would be impossible. If he could not do this, he would not be omnipotent, or he would not be omniscient — that is, he would not be God. Every Theist must also agree that if a God exists, he would wish all men to have such a clear consciousness of his existence and attributes, that doubt, disagreement, or disbelief on this subject would be impossible. And this, if for no other reason, because that out of doubts and disagreements on religion have too often resulted centuries of persecution, strife, and misery, which a good God would desire to prevent. If God would not desire this, then he is not all-good, that is, he is not God. But as many men have doubts, as a large majority of mankind have disagreements, and as some men have disbeliefs as to God’s existence and attributes, it must follow that God does not exist, or that he is not all-wise, or that he is not all-powerful, or that he is not all-good."

A Plea for Atheism, Charles Bradlaugh

Comment by Plinius on February 6, 2016 at 12:19am

Joan, what is called liberal in the Netherlands is a rightwing party that wants to remove all rules and obstacles for companies, especially the big companies. They still hang on to the ´trickle down´ theory,all the while making sure that needy people won't get one drop of that trickle - if it exists. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 5, 2016 at 11:34pm

"Theism declares that God dispenses health and inflicts disease, and sickness and illness are regarded by the Theists as visitations from an angered Deity, to be borne with meekness and content. Atheism declares that physiological knowledge may pre- serve us from disease by preventing us from infringing the law of health, and that sickness results not as the ordinance of offended Deity, but from ill-ventilated dwellings and workshops, bad and insufficient food, excessive toil, mental suffering, exposure to inclement weather, and the like — all these finding root in poverty, the chief source of crime and disease; that prayers and piety afford no protection against fever, and that if the human being be kept without food he will starve as quickly whether he be Theist or Atheist, theology being no substitute for bread."

~ Charles Bradlaugh, A Plea for Atheism

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 5, 2016 at 8:32pm

I am in a natural period of living when one easily reflects on life, its meaning (none), its purpose (none). I gave time a good strong run, naming and challenging the ethics and morals of centuries of family violence. So many opportunities opened up for me and I danced with them all. My dancing is more of a shuffle these days, but, hey! I am still alive!

This reflection is a cheerful time, by golly, I pulled it off. I raised my children to adulthood and they have developed into fine, decent people. Whew! Some said I couldn't do it! Hot Damn! I did it!

I begin the final chapter now and I could not be happier. 

Carl, all three of my children are now 51 years old. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on February 5, 2016 at 6:46pm

Joan, count me in on liking the Bradlaugh quotes as well.

Sounds like you are very busy these days.  I find it very difficult to start rummaging through old, personal memorabilia.  I sit down and start reminiscing, losing the time and effort I put forth for the initial task. 

I very much like looking at mementos left behind by my relatives from previous generations.  I've held onto some of my own items as well so those who follow me can have a physical reminder and insight of who I was as a person when I was alive. 

I haven't led a "rock star" life, nor have I had an earth-shattering effect on this world, but I've had the privilege and luck to have lived an interesting life.  Perhaps my future, and unknown at this time, relatives will find interest in discovering who I was within my time and place.       

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on February 5, 2016 at 5:44pm

I like your Bradlaugh quotes, Joan.

Thanks for sharing you clearing out of 40 years. I admire the way you move on confidently into the future.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 5, 2016 at 5:09pm

Boxes, boxes everywhere, bookcases empty, China stacked, getting ready for packing. We're cleaning out the pantry, refrigerator and freezer. 

Ran across some notes in books that I wrote years ago. Times were different then, the economy was thriving, the family was growing into adulthood and caused me some worry. Silly of me, looking back and realizing they turned out OK. I didn't need to fuss. 

Also ran across the correspondence I had with a psychiatrist at the U of WA when we got the diagnosis of Cary's brain disorder. That started a couple of years of learning how to deal with his behaviors. My job was to train him to be able to manage on his own when he was an adult. He is 51 now and I think he will function just fine with help from sister after I am gone. 

We are looking for a condominium to buy for Cary. We looked at many different options and this seems to be the one that meets everyone's needs. 

Thinking back over these past 40+ years, has been rewarding. I met many challenges and came through them the best I could. I didn't do too badly.  

Now, what do I do with 40+ years of accumulating treasures here and there. There is my book collection that is enormous. Craig wants some of the research papers and my collection of Mexican pots, Laura wants my spice rack so that will go north with me. We have a wall where we can install it. 

 

 

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