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The Most Hated Woman in America (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Gary S Apr 19. 7 Replies

Before Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty, before Dawkins or Dennett or Harris or even Hitchens, there was Madalyn Murray O'Hair.  In the midst of an America where Christianity was being flaunted as a defense against the godless communists of the Soviet…Continue

Tags: Frank Zindler, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Madalyn Murray O'Hair

Proud Dad is REALLY Proud Now!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Todd Williams Apr 12. 16 Replies

As some of you may or may not know, my daughter is a television news producer, currently working in Nashville, Tennessee.  Her assignment is the morning news, which means she blasts herself up at umpti-ump in the morning to organize and prepare a…Continue

Tags: Emmy, news, television, daughter, dad

attacking ideas (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 1 Reply

Attacking ideas is a considerable portion of what we as atheists do.  Why attack ideas?  Ideas earn attack when they don't serve people, not just us but those who adopt said ideas, mistakenly thinking that they have value when they don't.  Our…Continue

Tags: ideas, Islam, TheraminTrees

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 40 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

The Playboy Interview: Richard Dawkins

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 28. 16 Replies

I suppose it was the news that Playboy magazine was returning nudes to its pages after a year's hiatus that sufficiently perked my curiosity to check them out again.  I hadn't looked at Playboy since perhaps 2008, when I began to recognize that I…Continue

Tags: Richard Dawkins, Playboy

God's Annual Performance Review (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 19. 6 Replies

I don't know about you guys, but there wasn't a performance review I had in 30 years of field service that I didn't LOATHE.  It seems as though Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, is up for turning the tables on the person you would expect would…Continue

Tags: review, performance, god, American's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

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Comment by Joan Denoo on December 27, 2013 at 3:28pm

Ian, the Trojan Horse in Turkey is a prime example of justifiable fear of the Greek mythology. A lovely gift, and so generous, at the cost of the city of Troy. 

Or the "gift of God" of his son, Jesus. What a gift. Father a human child by invading the body of a young woman, (not a virgin as has been written), without her knowledge or her consent, with the sole intention of having Jesus slaughtered as a sacrificial lamb of god for the primitive people who were designed by god to be imperfect and punished by god for being imperfect. 

Nonsense, built upon nonsense. This is pure comedy and should be treated as such. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 27, 2013 at 2:27pm

Thanks Ian. 

ti·me·o Da·na·os et do·na fe·ren·tes; Latin.

English tim-ee-oh dan-ey-ohs et doh-nuh fuh-ren-teez]  

I fear the Greeks even when they bear gifts (I fear treacherous persons even when they appear to be friendly). Vergil's Aeneid:  I, 2:49.

Comment by Ian Mason on December 27, 2013 at 12:06pm

Timeo Daneos et dona ferentes, Joan.

A realistic tract about death: like it.

I'd heard of sugar-free for diabetics but fat-free is new to me.

Finished my last shift this morning and have (almost) the rest of the year off, from now until 11 p.m. New Year's evening. Time for the last burst of housework in 2013.

Comment by Plinius on December 27, 2013 at 1:03am

Some years ago I read texts about the male usurpation of matriarchal societies and religions , but texts like these are always biassed one way or the other. As far as I remember Mary could have been a goddes in her own right and later incorporated in xtianity.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 26, 2013 at 10:01pm

Part 2

One example that made us have a really hearty laugh was the ancient stories of Pandora of Neolithic times. She was the bringer of water, grains, animals, and all things needed to survive and thrive according to the clay figurines, and ancient art. 

In Greek mythologyPandora (Greek: Πανδώρα, derived from πᾶν, pān, i.e. "all" and δῶρον, dōron, i.e. "gift", thus "the all-endowed", "the all-gifted" or "the all-giving". "She who sends up gifts,"[3] implying "from below" within the earth, which is a clue to an earlier myth." 

Pandora, c. 1626, Nicolas Régnier correctly portrayed Pandora with a jar, not a box, in his Allegory of Vanity—Pandora

Her tool was a jar. When the patriarchs told her story, she had a box of evil things, representing vanity, hunger, disease, evil spirits. Thus Pandora and her box of evil.

The oracles of Delphi were males, according to Greek tour guides. When Gimbutas and Eisler made statements about only women being oracles, the official guides, that we were required to have with us, refuted their version. The guide insisted no woman was worthy of such an honor. 

Patriarchally influences archaeologist not only re-told these stories, they also revised them to suit their political interests. 

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 26, 2013 at 9:59pm

Patriarchal religions require dominance of male authority. 

When I travelled through Turkey, Greece, and Crete with Marija Gimbutas and Riane Eisler, they revealed that there was no evidence of a matriarchy in ancient times of the Neolithic to match patriarchy. Women were perceived as having special powers of bleeding and not dying, bearing and suckling children, and were wisdom keepers. 

Gimbutas, in her archeology digs near Thessaly, Greece, digging through layers of earth representing a period of time before contemporary estimates for Neolithic habitation in Europe — where other archaeologists would not have expected further finds — she unearthed a great number of artifacts of daily life which she researched and documented throughout her career."

"After a millennium when the Hun Empire collapsed, a distinct Slavic culture re-emerged and spread rapidly.""Neither Bulgars nor Avars colonized the Balkan Peninsula, after storming Thrace, Iilyria and Greece they went back to their territory north of the Danube. It was the Slavs who did the colonizing.[11]"

~ Marija Gimbutas

Obviously, patriarchal religions deny this and delude others into thinking female leaders assumed the same power as male leaders. 
Both Gimbutas and Eisler had their detractors, even among academics. Who can one trust as an archeologist? To whom does one go for authoritative evidence, patriarchal archaeologists or evidence based ones? 

Comment by sk8eycat on December 26, 2013 at 8:38pm

I meant to post this earlier today, but got involved with other stuff (trying to find a ride to HEAP "Home Energy Assistance Program," and similar things.)

Anyway,,,,

British Kitteh observes Bocksing Day

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 26, 2013 at 7:27pm

This is your death: Excellent!  Thanks Grinning Cat.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on December 26, 2013 at 6:53pm

This is your death - good one! Thanks Grinning Cat.

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 26, 2013 at 4:51pm

Mindy, great image of a true believer "waiting on Jesus".

Ian, that's funny.

 

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