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Degrees of Doubt: The Claims and Credentials of Ravi Zacharias (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris on Wednesday. 1 Reply

Anyone here ever run onto an apologist by the name of Ravi Zacharias?  I've seen his name dropped multiple times on YouTube as supposedly being THE ONE APOLOGIST that no atheist wants to cross swords with, because of his facility with christian…Continue

Tags: Ravi Zacharias, Steve Baughman, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Most Hated Woman in America (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Gary S Apr 19. 7 Replies

Before Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty, before Dawkins or Dennett or Harris or even Hitchens, there was Madalyn Murray O'Hair.  In the midst of an America where Christianity was being flaunted as a defense against the godless communists of the Soviet…Continue

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Proud Dad is REALLY Proud Now!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Todd Williams Apr 12. 16 Replies

As some of you may or may not know, my daughter is a television news producer, currently working in Nashville, Tennessee.  Her assignment is the morning news, which means she blasts herself up at umpti-ump in the morning to organize and prepare a…Continue

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attacking ideas (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 1 Reply

Attacking ideas is a considerable portion of what we as atheists do.  Why attack ideas?  Ideas earn attack when they don't serve people, not just us but those who adopt said ideas, mistakenly thinking that they have value when they don't.  Our…Continue

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bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 40 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

The Playboy Interview: Richard Dawkins

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 28. 16 Replies

I suppose it was the news that Playboy magazine was returning nudes to its pages after a year's hiatus that sufficiently perked my curiosity to check them out again.  I hadn't looked at Playboy since perhaps 2008, when I began to recognize that I…Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on December 26, 2013 at 10:01pm

Part 2

One example that made us have a really hearty laugh was the ancient stories of Pandora of Neolithic times. She was the bringer of water, grains, animals, and all things needed to survive and thrive according to the clay figurines, and ancient art. 

In Greek mythologyPandora (Greek: Πανδώρα, derived from πᾶν, pān, i.e. "all" and δῶρον, dōron, i.e. "gift", thus "the all-endowed", "the all-gifted" or "the all-giving". "She who sends up gifts,"[3] implying "from below" within the earth, which is a clue to an earlier myth." 

Pandora, c. 1626, Nicolas Régnier correctly portrayed Pandora with a jar, not a box, in his Allegory of Vanity—Pandora

Her tool was a jar. When the patriarchs told her story, she had a box of evil things, representing vanity, hunger, disease, evil spirits. Thus Pandora and her box of evil.

The oracles of Delphi were males, according to Greek tour guides. When Gimbutas and Eisler made statements about only women being oracles, the official guides, that we were required to have with us, refuted their version. The guide insisted no woman was worthy of such an honor. 

Patriarchally influences archaeologist not only re-told these stories, they also revised them to suit their political interests. 

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 26, 2013 at 9:59pm

Patriarchal religions require dominance of male authority. 

When I travelled through Turkey, Greece, and Crete with Marija Gimbutas and Riane Eisler, they revealed that there was no evidence of a matriarchy in ancient times of the Neolithic to match patriarchy. Women were perceived as having special powers of bleeding and not dying, bearing and suckling children, and were wisdom keepers. 

Gimbutas, in her archeology digs near Thessaly, Greece, digging through layers of earth representing a period of time before contemporary estimates for Neolithic habitation in Europe — where other archaeologists would not have expected further finds — she unearthed a great number of artifacts of daily life which she researched and documented throughout her career."

"After a millennium when the Hun Empire collapsed, a distinct Slavic culture re-emerged and spread rapidly.""Neither Bulgars nor Avars colonized the Balkan Peninsula, after storming Thrace, Iilyria and Greece they went back to their territory north of the Danube. It was the Slavs who did the colonizing.[11]"

~ Marija Gimbutas

Obviously, patriarchal religions deny this and delude others into thinking female leaders assumed the same power as male leaders. 
Both Gimbutas and Eisler had their detractors, even among academics. Who can one trust as an archeologist? To whom does one go for authoritative evidence, patriarchal archaeologists or evidence based ones? 

Comment by sk8eycat on December 26, 2013 at 8:38pm

I meant to post this earlier today, but got involved with other stuff (trying to find a ride to HEAP "Home Energy Assistance Program," and similar things.)

Anyway,,,,

British Kitteh observes Bocksing Day

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 26, 2013 at 7:27pm

This is your death: Excellent!  Thanks Grinning Cat.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on December 26, 2013 at 6:53pm

This is your death - good one! Thanks Grinning Cat.

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 26, 2013 at 4:51pm

Mindy, great image of a true believer "waiting on Jesus".

Ian, that's funny.

Comment by Grinning Cat on December 26, 2013 at 3:51pm

That's a good one!

Might anyone here recall an SF short story I'm vaguely remembering, where a world's dominant religion looks a lot like the Catholicism we know -- except priests must be women, the bearers and givers of life; and receiving the sacrament means licking the priest's menstrual blood from its source?

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 26, 2013 at 3:05pm

Comment by The Flying Atheist on December 26, 2013 at 2:08pm

Waiting on Jesus....great photo.  Thanks, Mindy.

Just throwing this out here.....I think my aunt, my father's sister who lives in the state of Washington, may have outed herself as a non-believer.  She sent me an email (which she never does) and signed it, "Happy Solstice."

Things that make you go, "Hmm." 

I'm enjoying some time away from work as of today.  I spent the past five days, the 21st through the 25th, dealing with the Xmas travelers.  TONS of families, kids, and once-a-year travelers.  I love my job, but it was fairly trying at times.  Good thing I have (dare I say) the patience of a Saint.  lol  The kids were mostly great.....and cute.  It was the stressed out parents and adults who acted like jerks.  I came home last night exhausted.  I'm lucky I had fun coworkers with me.  We did a lot of laughing. 

Comment by Loren Miller on December 26, 2013 at 12:35pm

Premium stuff, GC!  Thanks for posting it!

 

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