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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Degrees of Doubt: The Claims and Credentials of Ravi Zacharias (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris May 17. 1 Reply

Anyone here ever run onto an apologist by the name of Ravi Zacharias?  I've seen his name dropped multiple times on YouTube as supposedly being THE ONE APOLOGIST that no atheist wants to cross swords with, because of his facility with christian…Continue

Tags: Ravi Zacharias, Steve Baughman, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Most Hated Woman in America (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Gary S Apr 19. 7 Replies

Before Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty, before Dawkins or Dennett or Harris or even Hitchens, there was Madalyn Murray O'Hair.  In the midst of an America where Christianity was being flaunted as a defense against the godless communists of the Soviet…Continue

Tags: Frank Zindler, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Madalyn Murray O'Hair

Proud Dad is REALLY Proud Now!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Todd Williams Apr 12. 16 Replies

As some of you may or may not know, my daughter is a television news producer, currently working in Nashville, Tennessee.  Her assignment is the morning news, which means she blasts herself up at umpti-ump in the morning to organize and prepare a…Continue

Tags: Emmy, news, television, daughter, dad

attacking ideas (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 1 Reply

Attacking ideas is a considerable portion of what we as atheists do.  Why attack ideas?  Ideas earn attack when they don't serve people, not just us but those who adopt said ideas, mistakenly thinking that they have value when they don't.  Our…Continue

Tags: ideas, Islam, TheraminTrees

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 40 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

The Playboy Interview: Richard Dawkins

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 28. 16 Replies

I suppose it was the news that Playboy magazine was returning nudes to its pages after a year's hiatus that sufficiently perked my curiosity to check them out again.  I hadn't looked at Playboy since perhaps 2008, when I began to recognize that I…Continue

Tags: Richard Dawkins, Playboy

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Comment by Grinning Cat on December 16, 2013 at 2:04pm

Mindy, I hope your son recovers quickly!

And Felaine, hang in there... if the US were a civilized nation, health care wouldn't be held hostage to a predatory layer of administrators and insurance shareholders. But I'm preaching to the preacher, so to speak.

Thanks, Joan, for the pointer to a "vision" of St. Nicholas based on actual knowledge and evidence (imagine that!) rather than "our heroes must be white".

Comment by Steph S. on December 16, 2013 at 5:42am

Comment by The Flying Atheist on December 16, 2013 at 12:12am

I saw Wicked in 2006.  I agree, Loren, it was a lot of fun and very enjoyable.  I have to laugh at one reviewers comment at the time that stated the majority of the audience was teen girls and gay men.  Yup, I was there with a guy I was dating at the time and I can confirm that statement.  

Comment by Loren Miller on December 15, 2013 at 9:32pm

Thinking of The Wizard of Oz, my wife and I just went to see Wicked at the State Theater in downtown Cleveland.  Simple review: if you have so much as the remotest chance, SEE IT!!!

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 15, 2013 at 7:40pm
Comment by sk8eycat on December 15, 2013 at 2:09pm

The comments are as funny as the "article."

This ought to twist some KKK Krischun knickers.


http://m.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/12/1262236/--We-re-Not-White-Guys-Megyn-Kelly-By-Jesus-and-St-Nicholas?detail=email

Comment by Steph S. on December 14, 2013 at 8:47pm

Hope your son gets better Mindy and congrats on your daughter's first date - I hope it goes well for the two of them.

Comment by Steph S. on December 14, 2013 at 8:43pm

Comment by sk8eycat on December 14, 2013 at 7:38pm

Mindy, did you know that the man who wrote all the song lyrics, and a goodly part of the script for "The Wizard of Oz" (Yip Harburg) was a lifelong atheist?  I have a collection of his poems called "Rhymes for the Irreverent."  Funny stuff.

I think L. Frank Baum was an atheist, too. There is just too much very sly stuff in the first book that pokes fun at religion and conservative politics...IF you look at it in a certain way.  The "heartless" Tin Man, etc.  He was certainly passionate about politics in his private life.

Comment by sk8eycat on December 14, 2013 at 7:24pm

Patricia, did you have fusion along with the Laminectomy?  I did...I have two rods bolted to my lower spine, held in place with grafted donor bone. I was astonished at the low pain level afterwards; maybe it was the fact that hospitals are more knowledgeable about pain management now.  I was allowed smaller doses of pain meds every 2 hours instead of having to wait 4 hours for a larger dose that would always leave me groggy.  (I don't know what they gave me...not morphine.  I am violently allergic to that.)  I was able to sit cross-legged on my bed before I left the hospital 5 days after the surgery. Shocked the physical therapist (who I thought was a smug goody-two-shoes anyway.)  I didn't do the prescribed post-hospital therapy...lack of transportation, and... well...it bores me.

BTW, it was a Catholic hospital; I asked to have the "scarecrow" removed from my room, but they wouldn't do that, so the first day I was allowed out of bed, I draped my "Imagine No Religion" T-shirt over it.  My surgeon (young, secular Jewish) nearly fell on the floor laughing when he saw that.  So did one of my RNs (a gay man...middle-aged...ALL the nurses were fabulous!)

The main thing is that, as you said, the sciatic pain was killing me; I couldn't sit in a chair of any type for more than 5 minutes, so I couldn't get an office job for 10 years.  I knew as soon as I came out of the anesthesia that it was GONE! Oh, every once in a while (maybe every 6 months), I'll feel a tingle in my right leg, but it's a numbness-type tingle, not the hot, screaming pain I had before.

The most painful thing about the whole operation was the amount I had to pay out of my own pocket after Medicare paid its share.  I maxed out my only credit card, and am still making payments on the debt.

I need to have the same thing done on my neck, and I just can't.  It scares me...I had a parathyroidectomy (the incision is the same as for any thyroid surgery) in '92, and the post-op pain and stiffness went on for almost a year.  I couldn't sleep lying down for about 3 months, couldn't turn my head far enough even to look in the rear-view mirrors while driving, etc.

Plus...if I rack up any more debts, I'll lose the house. I wouldn't mind moving to an apartment for low-income seniors, but my sister would, and the house is in both our names.

 

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