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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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The Burial Waltz

Started by Donatien Alphonse François. Last reply by Donatien Alphonse François on Wednesday. 4 Replies

Hi everyone,It was almost a half-century ago, at age 15 or so, that I encountered one of the more important influences in my life: a crazy group of poets/musicians who called themselves The Fugs.They had a huge impact on me in that, though raised in…Continue

Some William Blake to Ponder

Started by Donatien Alphonse François. Last reply by Donatien Alphonse François on Tuesday. 6 Replies

Hello all,I'm new here, and so hope this isn't old hat. But, I just had to point you toward a marvelous poem by William Blake in case you've never read it. Despite his sometimes heavily tinged biblical references in his other art and poetry, this…Continue

God's Not Dead - The Christian Persecution Complex (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Annie Willis Apr 20. 7 Replies

Doubtless most if not all of you have heard about that sorry piece of cinema known as God's Not Dead, and perhaps its sequel, cleverly entitled: God's Not Dead 2 (wow, how original!).  Personally, I have wasted neither time nor money on either,…Continue

Tags: God's Not Dead, patheos, Neil Carter, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Confirmed: flagged by religious people for "bullying."

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 19. 4 Replies

According to Seth Andrews @SethAndrewsTTA  Apr 16"Confirmed. TTA was flagged by religious people for "bullying." Apparently, criticism and skepticism = persecution. #GodHatesFacts"Others reported as "Flagged" and taken off line: @The Thinking…Continue

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The Value of Atheist Nexus ... and of Keeping Contact

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 17. 13 Replies

I don't know about you, but the last 24+ hours were VERY uncomfortable for me.  Why?  Because something I value a LOT, being Atheist Nexus and the people I care about on A|N were temporarily unavailable to me.  No, we're not Facebook; I don't think…Continue

Tags: maintenance, community, availability, Atheist Nexus

Atheist Pig STRIKES AGAIN!!!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev Apr 5. 1 Reply

There's no getting around it, Atheist Pig is fast becoming my fave secular comic, and as evidence, I refer you to the following.  Jesus and Mo had better watch their respective asses, 'cuz they got a porker coming up on the outside, and I'm pretty…Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 9:46pm

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 9:44pm

 “There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”

~ Daniel Dennett 

Philosophy That Stirs the Waters

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 29, 2013 at 9:40pm

Joan, in response to your earlier post about me you mused, "I assume you, too, had to search for principles upon which you could build your life."  I never really searched for principles (or a philosophy per say) to live my life.  Rather, I'd say that my parents instilled a level of morality and ethics into me and my three siblings that I grew to learn had a degree of integrity that I could be proud of and happy to use as a guide.  At the same time I lived as closely as I could to being the true me, albeit with one major exception.....I was closeted to others about my already self-known homosexuality, not that I thought there was anything wrong with me, but out of embarrassment and fear of negative reactions.  But during my entire childhood I did manage to march to the beat of my own unique drum, and my family and I can still laugh about some of my eccentric and memorable episodes to this day.  

I started questioning religion during my high school years and definitely had an atheistic view cemented during my college years.  All these years since, I've led my life according to principles given to me by my parents and but also by my own moral standard taught to me through experience.  I'll be 49 this year but it was fairly recently, about five or six years ago, when I was reading about something I had never heard of, Secular Humanism, when the light bulb went off in my head and I experienced a revelation.  I was everything a Secular Humanist was!!  I didn't go searching for a philosophy, I kind of stumbled upon a label that described who I already was.

I would venture to say that if all you took away just one aspect from my parents, their religion, you'd be left with two people who are Secular Humanists.    

Comment by sk8eycat on April 29, 2013 at 7:55pm

I forgot to mention one of the main things that exploded in my brain when I was reading the buybull, and really thinking about what I was reading.  I have always been fascinated by all the sciences, but didn't have the math background or ability to get into college and major in one of them (and I was madly in love with skating until it started to hurt).  I have always wanted to know the TRUTH about everything.  I was still reading Genesis when I realized everything in it was written by flat-earthers, and stuff like Noah's Flood were physically impossible. At that point I began deliberately looking for other impossibilities.  At that time I wasn't aware of all the scholarly books and articles going back to the Enlightenment about the fact that the basis of Judaism and Islam, Abraham, was probably a myth, that archaeological evidence for the Exodus does not exist, and there is nothing written by either Jewish or Roman historians mentioning the crucificxion of a rabble-rousing rabbi during Passover.

(Nor was I aware then that the Sanhedrin would never have tried anybody for any religious "crime" during Passover. And they certainly would not have taken the matter to the Roman governor, and insisted that he order the execution of the "criminal.")

BUT by the time I got halfway through Revelation I was wondering what drugs the writer was on.  That was in the mid 1960s, and pot and LSD were beginning to make the rounds....  Ergot, or ergotamine was known, and used, for millennia in Rome and Egypt.

Anyway, I realized I had been reading and trying to believe fiction. And it wasn't nearly as much fun as Dick Francis' horse-racing mysteries...or even Perry Mason.  So I said, "Phphphbtbtbtttt!" And quit trying to force a triangular (the Trinity) block into a circular-reasoned orifice.

It took Heinlein's STRANGER IN A STRANGE LAND to make me "get" that communion is symbolic cannibaliam. Gag me with a spoon, Mary!

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 7:14pm
Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 6:32pm

"The streets of Amsterdam are awash in the color orange in honor of the Netherlands' ruling House of Oranje-Nassau, as officials prepare for a once-in-a-generation rotation of royal titles — and the rest of the country gets ready to party."

"Tuesday, Queen Beatrix is to abdicate, Willem-Alexander become king, and his 9-year-old daughter Princess Catharina-Amalia become crown princess."

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 6:22pm

This string is just outstanding ... Ruth, excellent reference for "Men who hate women and women who love them";

"'Jets waive QB Tim Tebow.' There was no mention in that release of Tebow’s statistics with the team, perhaps in part because there were none worth mentioning";

The male bird holding the beak of the female; let me think, what can she do to reclaim her power?;

A new king for the Netherlands; may all your people flourish during your reign!

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on April 29, 2013 at 5:24pm

Debra Stevenson said

Why would anyone be friends with someone who thinks that your 'inherently inferior' to them?  That is a form of an abusive relationship, that is not a 'friendship'.

Indeed. But it's often the norm for women to love men who think that women are inherently inferior to men. Doublethink and denial, or self-deception, seem to go a long way in our culture.

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Comment by Lillie on April 29, 2013 at 3:01pm

Tom, at least you were not on the way to work when you were peed on. LOL

Comment by Plinius on April 29, 2013 at 2:09pm

I love that, thanks Patricia!

We expect a lot of noise tomorrow, most people are very busy to paint the country orange to honour our next king. I hope I'll find a quiet spot... 

 

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