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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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We Don't Want Your (Atheist) Money! (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by k.h. ky 42 minutes ago. 6 Replies

I suppose I've heard stories like this before:Conscientious atheist donates money to worthy cause.Worthy cause initially accepts money.Worthy cause discovers source of donation.Worthy cause rejects donation.Swell, eh?  Well Matt Willbourne of…Continue

Tags: American Baptist Churches Association, Murrow Indian Children's Home, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Are You a Patriot? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Bertold Brautigan 3 hours ago. 1 Reply

You might think that Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, would be stepping outside of her comfort zone in tackling the concept of patriotism.  As it turns out, not only does she have a proper handle on the term and its implications, she also…Continue

Tags: patriot, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

The Ark Encounter: A Less than Grand Opening (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat on Monday. 24 Replies

The day finally arrived.  Ken Ham's Ark Encounter opened on 7 July, 2016 ... to something a bit less than Disney-sized crowds, and more than a couple dissenting voices!  Seth Andrews has gathered a quartet of significant participants in the protest…Continue

Tags: Tracey Moody, Dan Broadbent, Seth Andrews, David Silverman, AronRa

Surreal, I haz it

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Aug 14. 91 Replies

Surreal, not just found in art.Continue

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Wedding Haka - Subtitled & translated

Started by Joan Denoo Aug 13. 0 Replies

I ran across a video of a wedding in which a group of wedding guests celebrated with a performance of a traditional Māori ancestral war dance, called a Haka. It was intended for sons, however, the women have joined in a participation of…Continue

Tags: new, traditions., women, men, Haka

Onward (Unpaid) Christian Soldiers (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris G Aug 13. 1 Reply

Proselytizing in the military is a dirty little secret most radical christians would rather didn't get out.  Well, never let it be said that America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, was ever a wallflower where a pit bull was needed!  In the following…Continue

Tags: Military Religious Freedom Foundation, MRFF, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

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Comment by Joan Denoo on May 25, 2013 at 1:17am

This is the kind of Jaunting Cart I rode for two days in Killarney, Ireland, with an old Irish gentleman. I visited schools, hospitals, day care centers, old folks homes, and interviewed some of his relatives who were peasant people. Even though we did some sightseeing, I was not interested in the English estates or castles. I wanted to see workers' cottages, farms, and we ate in non-tourist Irish pubs. It was quite an experience. He was an Irish loyalist, through and through and so a perfect guide for my interests. He told me of the Irish famine and how his ancestors survived. A horrid story of greed, tyranny, and exploitation of the Irish. The famine was a political famine. There was plenty of food available, and the British owned the soil. Any poaching resulted in hanging. 

Killarney Jaunting Cart like I rode for two days doing my research. 

The Irish famine: Opening old wounds
http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2012/12/irish-famine

The Graves Are Walking
http://us.macmillan.com/thegravesarewalking/JohnKelly

The Famine Plot
http://www.palgrave.com/products/title.aspx?pid=485515

Killarney Jaunting Carts and scenes from Google

Comment by Ian Mason on May 25, 2013 at 12:53am

Very good words, Joan. There are too many petty dictators in the world and so many people that need a helping hand to escape from them.

Patricia, I hope your house is soon fully dressed in its new wardrobe. What colour are houses wearing this Spring?

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 25, 2013 at 12:06am

Grace Lee Boggs. This is a woman for our time. She has a message that must be echoed down the streets and highways of our nation. 

Grace Lee Boggs in Los Angeles

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on May 24, 2013 at 11:55pm

Joan, that graph's a stunning display of how corporations have evaded responsibility in the US. And every Republican bill that pretends to lower taxes is another way to limit their contribution even further. As the article says

"Another thing we can get mad about is how the "corporate tax reform" that Cook and other corporate leaders are always banging on about will actually serve to make it so companies pay even less in taxes than they do now."

What? There's no quote button in comments now? *ack*

I loved the ducks learning to love water video. Thanks!

Take good care of yourself. *HUG*

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 24, 2013 at 10:42pm

If you don't know how to read a chart, find someone to teach you. If you don't have time, make time. 

If you have more important things to do, you are a fool. 

The 1 Chart That Reveals Just How Grossly Unfair The U.S. Tax Syste...

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 24, 2013 at 10:13pm

Former Whitworth college president, Edward Lindaman,  formerly director of programming for the Apollo space project, helped me organize "Toward a theory of family violence: its antecedents, treatment and prevention". He taught that when confronted with a problem for which old thinking and procedures fail to accomplish tasks, start thinking in the future tense.  He used an example of building a system that would get a man on the moon and return him safely to earth. They did not have the fuels, plastics, metals, navigation equipment or even the nuts and bolts and a lot of other things needed to accomplish their mission. They started with what they had, imagined and created what they needed for the future and then built the rockets and manned space capsules. They thought in the future tense.  

Gathering information for my masters' degree, I was totally overwhelmed by the amount of data I collected in support of my theses, in spite of the fact there were no books on the subject in city or county libraries or in any of the local colleges and universities. I did find journal articles buried in the stacks of Psych and Soc abstracts.  My interviews with physicians, psychiatrists, ministers, counselors, therapists, teachers, emergency room doctors and nurses and personnel, and police resulted in 18,000 3x5 cards of date.   

Overwhelmed by the amount of information gathered from primary sources and literature reviews, I asked Ed Lindaman for help and in 90 minutes we developed a framework, an outline, a non-biased way to present findings so that I could be free of the accusation of bias. My thesis completed and put into the college thesis library system, I received both praise and condemnation. 

Working on my doctoral dissertation at a Roman Catholic University, I wrote "A Splendid Heresy", about abuse, faith,  prayer, marriage and divorce, child rearing, contraception, abortion. With each written topic I received valuable and appreciated criticisms from priests and professors because they forced me to dig deeper and wider into my thinking of such things as family, religion, cultural norms, power/powerlessness, agency/helplessness, independent/dependent behaviors, consequences of attitudes, beliefs, customs, traditions, and values.

In the end I failed to earn a Ph.D. because I was "biased." 

Think carefully about the role of education: is it to indoctrinate or explore?

 

Guide to the Edward B. Lindaman Papers 
1965-1982

http://nwda-db.wsulibs.wsu.edu/ark:/80444/xv40359

 

Thinking in the Future Tense, Edward B. Lindaman.

http://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Future-Tense-Edward-Lindaman/dp/0805...

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 24, 2013 at 10:05pm

Tom, you are a delight!  For years I have been making noises trying to get people to hear what legions of people have been trying to say and for whatever reason, are not heard, or do not speak clearly enough, or speak to deaf ears. Just think of the tears and suffering of African black slaves who were not heard, even though they gave voice to their sorrow. 
It is well past time for people to stand together, speak up in a single voice and make claims to rights of humanity and access to justice. We have to have the courage, wisdom, and insight, and if we stand up, speak out, refuse to submit, our whole world will be better off. 

Hunger, disease, ignorance, poverty, powerlessness are crimes against humanity, and we must hold humanity responsible. Our nation is so far off track, even our bridges fall down into rivers as we bomb and blast people too poor to crawl out of caves to protect themselves. Where are our priorities. We should be working to make all people thrive. The people from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Indian, China, USA, Mexico ... everyone one has the right to thrive and become fully functional to their capacities. Just think, if the working people of all those countries could afford to buy goods and services and uplift their nations, how much better Earth will be. 

Comment by tom sarbeck on May 24, 2013 at 6:48pm

Joan, if in your sentence

"I most humbly disagree with those who say my kind of thinking puts us at “us vs. them” mentality,...."

you will replace "most humbly" with "most strongly",

you will make my day, week, month, year, and maybe decade.

I might even relocate briefly to Washington so I can vote for you for governor.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 24, 2013 at 3:16pm

Ed just sent me this video of a group of ducks who had been penned up their whole lives. A rescue group brought them to a safe haven, made sure they were healthy, and then turned them out to the field and stream. The poor ducks looked afraid of water, and it took great patience to introduce them to their natural environment. My heart just sings. Ducks are made ducks to do duck things. Humans are humans made to do human things. The natural laws of healthy community provide the nourishment, compassion and love they need. Guilt, shame, fear, unfounded hope are no remedies. 

Hoarded Ducks See Water For The First Time.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 24, 2013 at 3:11pm

Lillie, I know what you mean. We are created as participants in nature and nature has a way of teaching us how to be in community. When a bunch of nonsense rules interfere with nature, all kinds of abominations happen, i.e. priests and little boys, parents who allow their children to die untreated when simple remedies exist.  

 

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