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Yasmine Mohammed - Confessions of an Ex-Muslim (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jul 7. 6 Replies

Yasmine Mohammed is not your average ex-Muslim.  Not only did she get shut of Islam, she also managed to escape what was at one time the most notorious of radical Islamist organizations: Al Qaeda.  She has since documented the story of her apostasy…Continue

Tags: Islam, Al Qaeda, Yasmine Mohammed, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Ignorance is Bliss: Why Religious People Seem Happier Than the 'Nones'”.

Started by Joan Denoo Jul 6. 0 Replies

“Highly Religious Volunteer More, Lie Less, and Claim to Be Happier”~ Houston Chronicle; “Strongly Religious People are Happier than Non-Religious”  ~ Christian Daily."The study determined that 40 percent of highly religious adults—defined as those…Continue

Tags: Nones, happiness, non-religiosity, religiosity, bliss

Afrodisiacs – African Aphrodisiacs

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jun 26. 4 Replies

Am I so old and not know the definition of aphrodisiac, and its historical definition being based on Aphrodite, that her name came from the African drugs that Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans used for sexual enhancement? Dhu!  Aphrodite, ancient Greek…Continue

Tags: Africa, Lady, Victorian

Degrees of Doubt: The Claims and Credentials of Ravi Zacharias (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris May 17. 1 Reply

Anyone here ever run onto an apologist by the name of Ravi Zacharias?  I've seen his name dropped multiple times on YouTube as supposedly being THE ONE APOLOGIST that no atheist wants to cross swords with, because of his facility with christian…Continue

Tags: Ravi Zacharias, Steve Baughman, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Most Hated Woman in America (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Gary S Apr 19. 7 Replies

Before Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty, before Dawkins or Dennett or Harris or even Hitchens, there was Madalyn Murray O'Hair.  In the midst of an America where Christianity was being flaunted as a defense against the godless communists of the Soviet…Continue

Tags: Frank Zindler, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Madalyn Murray O'Hair

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Comment by Thomas Murray on July 14, 2017 at 10:49am

Learn more about the benefits of physical abuse...

Welcome to CDD ( Christian Domestic Discipline)

http://christiandomesticdiscipline.com/

I thought that must be some joke or fake website but:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/spanking-for-jesus-inside-the-unholy-w...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/christian-domestic-discipl...

Comment by Thomas Murray on July 14, 2017 at 10:40am

Ian, That cartoon was funny!

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 14, 2017 at 9:20am

Ian, that's not an inaccurate depiction.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 13, 2017 at 11:36pm

I can testify that the hitting resides in the hitter; nothing makes him or her hit. Some families grow without ever experiencing assault!

Oh! by the way, people caught in homes that use physical violence call the practice, "discipline." No one uses the words assault or violence. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 13, 2017 at 11:29pm

Learning as experience by a baby born into a violent home.

Baby observes father hit mother; observes mother’s pain and embarrassment. Baby feels the slap on the face or a smack on the bottom by mother or father; experiences the pain and embarrassment. 

Baby become part of an extended family and sees Grandfather hit Grandma, Uncles hit Aunts, and the feelings of helpless and hopelessness turn into expectations of seeing and experiencing the assaults. Grandfathers, uncles, and fathers claim they have sovereignty over wives and children. Grandmothers, aunts, and mothers instruct growing child on how to behave so that one can avoid being hit.

Nowhere is there a question about the use of assault as a discipline tool and its consequences!

The child, grown into adulthood, learned well the lessons of how to be a man or a woman. They repeat the patterns of their past or swear to never use assault as a tool of discipline. 

Is this Rationalism or Empiricism? 

As the adult enters the public world and encounters potential mates, or takes on the learned role of male or female, how does his past learning work?  

What triggers a reevaluation of old learnings?

Comment by Ian Mason on July 13, 2017 at 9:17pm

Thomas and Berthold, is this what it's like?

Comment by Ian Mason on July 13, 2017 at 9:16pm

Joan, I see empiricism as 'experience first, understand later.' It's closer to the scientific method of observing and then working out the 'how' and 'why'. Rationalism starts and ends with thinking.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 13, 2017 at 9:04pm

Ian, your response to my discussion with Ruth started me on a search: "'rationalism' vs 'empiricism' debate". 

"Rationalists asserted that, in principle, all knowledge, including scientific knowledge, could be gained through the use of reason alone, they also observed that this was not possible in practice for human beings, except in specific areas such as mathematics."

~ The Basics of Philosophy, Rationalism

"Philosophical empiricists hold no knowledge to be properly inferred or deduced unless it is derived from one's sense-based experience. This view is commonly contrasted with rationalism, which states that knowledge may be derived from reason independently of the senses."

Empiricism philosophy definition

Are you able to word these ideas into understandable concepts? I was never good at this kind of thinking. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 13, 2017 at 7:47pm

Thomas -- I've used a cpap for 7 or 8 years with no problems, and I think I'm pretty majorly claustrophobic. (E.g., they give me a valium when I get an mri.) There are different mask types available. I have the very small "nose pillow" that only goes over your nose and it's never bugged me to use it all night every night.

Comment by Thomas Murray on July 13, 2017 at 7:44pm

Grinning Cat,

You know, it should be called Sleepless Study so it can have broader range of study than just focusing on apnea.

The difficulty with me is physiological  ... when I put the mask on I get claustrophobic which is something I've never experience before then. One of the way I overcome it is wait until I am over tired to care.

 

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