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bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller yesterday. 39 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller Sep 6. 0 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

We Don't Want Your (Atheist) Money! (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 2. 17 Replies

I suppose I've heard stories like this before:Conscientious atheist donates money to worthy cause.Worthy cause initially accepts money.Worthy cause discovers source of donation.Worthy cause rejects donation.Swell, eh?  Well Matt Willbourne of…Continue

Tags: American Baptist Churches Association, Murrow Indian Children's Home, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Sep 2. 3 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Are You a Patriot? (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris G Aug 29. 22 Replies

You might think that Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, would be stepping outside of her comfort zone in tackling the concept of patriotism.  As it turns out, not only does she have a proper handle on the term and its implications, she also…Continue

Tags: patriot, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

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Comment by Joan Denoo on June 1, 2013 at 10:36am

The infidels of one age have often been the aureoled saints of the next.       The destroyers of the old are the creators of the new.       As time sweeps on the old passes away and the new in its turn becomes old.       There is in the intellectual world, as in the physical, decay and growth, and ever by the grave of buried age stand youth and joy.       The history of intellectual progress is written in the lives of infidels, political rights have been preserved by traitors, the liberty of mind by heretics.       To attack the king was treason; to dispute the priest was blasphemy.       For many centuries the sword and cross were allies. Together they attacked the rights of man. They defended each other.       The throne and altar were twins -- two vultures from the same egg.       James I. said: "No bishop, no king." He might have added: "No cross, no crown." The king owned the bodies of men; the priest, the souls. One lived on taxes collected by force, the other on alms collected by fear -- both robbers, both beggars.       These robbers and these beggars controlled two worlds. The king made laws, the priest made creeds. Both obtained their authority from God, both were the agents of the Infinite.       With bowed backs the people carried the burdens of one, and with wonder's open mouth received the dogmas of the other.       If the people aspired to be free, they were crushed by the king, and every priest was a Herod who slaughtered the children of the brain.

Robert Green Ingersoll - Voltaire

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 1, 2013 at 4:00am

"OK everybody, let's get together and make it happen"

~ Red bird 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 1, 2013 at 3:57am

Is It Too Late To Start Again?

It is too late, only if we think it is too late. Humans clearly outlives our welcome on a sustainable planet.  "it is a difficult cognitive shift in attitude to move from the mindset of “Leave it alone or it will disappear” to the mindset of “If we leave it alone, it may disappear.”

Well, what are our options? Do nothing? Cry? Blame? Get angry? Wallow in fear?

Well, I think there are other options. Ones like stop crazy development of fossil fuels. Put an end to GMO foods. Plan for feeding people, along side making profits. Be intollerant of intolerable beliefs. 

Funny, how when I criticize economic or political issues, I don't get very many ugly responses. When I criticize religious beliefs that are crazy, I get real threats. That could be a good sign. 

As for me, I will do all I can to put a light footprint on my Mother Earth. 

OOPPSS that should read, Humans clearly outlive our welcome on a sustainable planet.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 1, 2013 at 3:45am

Loren, what a grotesque way to live a life. I shudder at the sight o that little girl's eyes. I wonder what her future holds for her?

Comment by Steph S. on May 31, 2013 at 4:43pm

Yes, my sanity occasionally replies too Melinda.

How is everyone? I hope everyone is having a fun Friday.

Comment by Loren Miller on May 31, 2013 at 2:57pm

Saw the following on CBSNews.com and had to repost it here:



Anyone care to suggest what's wrong with this picture?

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 31, 2013 at 12:13pm

"Knock, knock." 

"Who's there?" 

"Not your white blood cells, that's fer damn sure."

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 31, 2013 at 12:10pm

Ian, There are so many wonderful memories I hold of Crete. May I suggest just two spots I enjoyed.  

One is the Cave of Zeus entered from high on the slopes of Mount Ida. I walked, some rode donkeys, and the view from the top still gives me chills because of the beauty and history of that place. I was with Marija Gimbutas and Rianne Eisler and about a dozen others. We carried lighted bees wax candles until we got to the bottom, we blew out our candles, and that was black a black as I have ever seen. We then chanted Old World Goddess Chants that echoed up through the channel to the top entrance. We re-lit our candles and came out into bright Crete sunshine. We sat on stones as Maria told us old stories from the Neolithic when God was a Woman. Marija and I shared a large stone and we talked about the role of women in history, the changes, and the possible futures of a feminine energy being included into politics and economics and religion. 

The second was the Archeology Museum, if you have any interest in the subject. 

There was a second special memory of Crete. There is an old, Neolithic temple that sank into the sea so that part is underwater and part is above. It was on the day of either the Spring Equinox or the Summer Solstice and a full moon. I should be able to figure out the exact date if I go to a moon chart ... too lazy.  We gathered wild flowers from a field, made tiaras and wore them as we danced under the full moon, singing songs Marija and Rianne taught us. Some of us danced into the water. 

Life is meant to be explored, experienced, and enjoyed. 

I hope your trip to Crete leaves you with special memories you can carry to the end of your life. A sweet way to live. 

Comment by Steph S. on May 31, 2013 at 11:31am

Ian be safe on your trip.

Comment by Grinning Cat on May 31, 2013 at 4:59am

Ian, have a great trip!

Ruth, well said about sex. Consensual sex among adults (or among peers), done while being good and responsible to yourself and to each other, is a natural and good thing!

Part of being civilized is recognizing the difference between "No thanks, that's not for me" and "That's filthy and evil; nobody should do it!"

That said, we do unfortunately have to function within a larger Dominator culture, so the Atheist Nexus and Ning terms of service reflecting the general taboo on nudity and sex are something we have to accept here. As you said, we have to pick our battles: maintaining this vibrant community of nontheists would be a Good Thing.

 

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