Hang With Friends

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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Issues Atheist, Feminist, GLBTQ, Climate Change

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by BenGee yesterday. 3 Replies

This is a test Continue

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly on Thursday. 15 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Tuesday. 2 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

A moment to relax and see the Earth from space; some how this comforts me.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev Oct 16. 3 Replies

All the squabbles and struggles that I have do not compare with those of some others on this great planet. There are no boundary lines, no political arguments, no up or no down. What is, is. For right now, the scenes offer tranquility. Just the…Continue

Tags: and, wonder, awe, of, space

His Dark Materials and the Catholic Church

Started by Tonya R. Wheeler. Last reply by Plinius Oct 16. 27 Replies

I recently watched the movie, "The Golden Compass" and since I could not find the sequels, I read the books. I enjoyed them, and I will be reading the first one, Northern Lights, starting tomorrow, since it just arrived via inter-library…Continue

Tags: Fantasy, Catholic, Religion, Atheist, Pullman

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 29. 39 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

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Comment by The Flying Atheist on June 9, 2013 at 12:05pm

Is that the Great "Bare"-ier Reef?

Comment by Ian Mason on June 9, 2013 at 12:03pm

Yassos, dear friends. Here's a "postcard" from my hols.

Crete; the place where the Minoan civilisation began. Main site, Knossos, excavated and partly restored by Sir Arthur Evans.

Comment by sk8eycat on June 9, 2013 at 3:29am

Another "Moon River." One of the very first jokes I was sent in 2001 when I first went online.

Comment by sk8eycat on June 9, 2013 at 3:24am

Moon River....?

Comment by sk8eycat on June 9, 2013 at 3:09am

I don't know much about my mother's ancestors, but I do know that some of Dad's ancestors were younger sons who would not inherit, so they took a chance on the colonies.  One went  south, and the other stayed in New England (Dad was descended from the New Englander).  The Southerner was the ancestor of a Confederate general...when I was touring with Holiday, I kept running into my last name all over the place.

Some of Mother's ancestors stood on the shore of their native land, watching the Europeans sailing in...with their technology, weapons, and diseases...saying "There goes the neighborhood."

Or something like that.


The good news is that polls show that the percentage of adult non-believers in the USA is rising rapidly, especially ammong college students. 30% - plus, now.  There is hope.


Comment by Plinius on June 9, 2013 at 1:44am

Once I began to piece this kind of information together, I knew that violence, oppression, domination were a very clear and a real part of my cultural heritage. I wondered if I could break the cycles of violence in my descendants. 

That is a very big thing - to try and break the cycles of violence in your descendants - but also a very brave choice. I think you'll never know if you succeeded. But you've got wonderful children!

How are you feeling today?

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 9, 2013 at 1:29am

Chris, maybe we could have a group Moon at NSA.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 9, 2013 at 1:28am

Chris, my ancestors left Plymouth, England because they were being persecuted by the Church of England (or some religious body)  for Leiden, Holland, and found it too liberal for their tastes. My ancestor purchased passage for herself and 10 year old son by agreeing to go to the Plymouth colon to be "breed stock." She fulfilled her agreement, had a daughter in Plymouth, and I am descended from her. 

I wonder what options were open for her in 1632? Not much! Later generations were in Salem, Mass. and were accusers of witches. When I started my quest, I hoped to fine some family traditions with which I could feel a pride. Alas, my ancestors, in addition to accusing children and adults of being witches, also participated in cutting off noses of Quakers who refused to submit to their rule.

Once I began to piece this kind of information together, I knew that violence, oppression, domination were a very clear and a real part of my cultural heritage. I wondered if I could break the cycles of violence in my descendants. 

And yes, they did breed like vermin. 

Comment by Plinius on June 9, 2013 at 12:50am

 that the U.S. is the most religious nation on earth!!! 

We waved good-bye to a lot of them; Pilgrim Fathers, Mennonites, Hernhutters, and so on, but there are Always enough left - they multiply like pests. And that makes me think what effect they have on natural selection....  

Comment by sk8eycat on June 9, 2013 at 12:02am

Joan, I love that sly NSA graphic, even though the situation itself scares the *bleep!* outta me.  I have nothing to hide, but I remember how the KGB used to operate, and one of my usual sarcastic remarks could be misunderstood if overheard...and taken seriously...and I'm too old to put up with their brand of interror-gation.


I also can relate to your post about "people-pleasing."  We talked about that a lot when I was going to 12-step meetings for Adult Children of Alcoholics (ACA).  It's a behavioral symptom of some sort of childhood dysfunctional family stuff.

In my own case, I was never physically or emotionally abused, but I believed that if I could just do the right thing, like get better grades in school, my dad would stop drinking.  He was a "quiet" yelling, or physical tantrums, but he just wasn't "there."  He did finally dry out when I was 20, and I went to work for him...learning bookkeeping...for 7 years.  Till he fell off the wagon, and I ran away again.  (Re-joined Holiday.)

When I was older I found myself dating guys who drank too much, and I finally realized that I was looking for someone like my father.

Then there were a few who tried to control beliefs and taste in entertainment.

I ran like hell from all of them.  I didn't know why at the time, but I guess it was just self-preservation.  I couldn't imagine myself spending my life with any of them (and having their children. Gack!).

D'ruther have a non-physical relationship with a gay man...or men, except I'm a lousy roommate.  The only reason my sister and I are able to live together is that we leave each other alone.

Anyway, I didn't understand why I did what I did till I started talking to other people who'd been through the same sort of things.  ACA really did help for a couple of years, till I got tired of all the "god talk."  and fore, it wasn't like AA where you have to keep going to meetings for the rest of your life.  I just needed to step back and take a good look at myself, and figure out why I kept putting myself in people-pleasing "doormat" situations. And stop it.

I wan't pleasing anybody, anyway.  Especially not myself.


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