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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Issues Atheist, Feminist, GLBTQ, Climate Change

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by BenGee on Saturday. 3 Replies

This is a test Continue

The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Oct 20. 15 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 17. 2 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

A moment to relax and see the Earth from space; some how this comforts me.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev Oct 16. 3 Replies

All the squabbles and struggles that I have do not compare with those of some others on this great planet. There are no boundary lines, no political arguments, no up or no down. What is, is. For right now, the scenes offer tranquility. Just the…Continue

Tags: and, wonder, awe, of, space

His Dark Materials and the Catholic Church

Started by Tonya R. Wheeler. Last reply by Plinius Oct 16. 27 Replies

I recently watched the movie, "The Golden Compass" and since I could not find the sequels, I read the books. I enjoyed them, and I will be reading the first one, Northern Lights, starting tomorrow, since it just arrived via inter-library…Continue

Tags: Fantasy, Catholic, Religion, Atheist, Pullman

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 29. 39 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

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Comment by Joan Denoo on May 30, 2013 at 10:38pm

Napoleon, you can judge me a prude, a Victorian, a Tight Ass, or any other word or phase you like. I don't like sex talk. If I like it, I know where to go to see all kinds, every position, using every orifice imaginable. I left GLBT because they have every right to discuss sexuality and I don't like to read or watch it although I support their efforts. I can support them in other ways. 

I don't apologize for being who I am, nor do I judge you for being who you are, or anyone else. Sex is a personal thing and private. 

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on May 30, 2013 at 8:56pm

The 'Filthy Habits' video might violate the AN standard of not posting something inappropriate for a 14 year old, since it's sexually explicit. While I have no objection to masturbation video in general, I can see how that's doesn't further our purpose. Leaving it here would just give ammunition to critics who view sex as filthy. I'm personally sex-positive. I consider consensual sex among adults as normal healthy behavior, no more morally reprehensible than eating. However AN has to function within a larger Dominator culture in which sex is taboo.

We're not really stitched up, as I see it. You can load up on sexually explicit material from the internet all you want. It just doesn't fit with our purpose here.

We have to pick our battles, Napoleon.

Comment by Loren Miller on May 30, 2013 at 6:27pm

For your enjoyment ... a couple of music legends share a song together ... and we're goin' to Graceland!

Comment by Lillie on May 30, 2013 at 4:10pm

Love the cat scan.  Wonder how on earth they got the cat to stay there.  Mine would have rebelled.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on May 30, 2013 at 1:44pm

Here I was feeling sorry for Philadelphians because there's a heat wave at the end of May. Then I learned that

Heat wave conditions have claimed the lives of over 500 people in India since April.

... 524 people have died of sunstroke since April 1.

... the state of Hyderabad’s 500 sunstroke deaths in just three days is the highest such death toll in recent history. New Delhi saw 43 degrees C (or over 109 degrees Fahrenheit) today, western states such as Gujarat saw highs between 116-118 degrees Fahrenheit, and the northern state of Uttar Pradesh hit 45 C (113 F). [emphasis mine]

Now the low 90s doesn't seem so bad.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 30, 2013 at 1:31pm

Mindy, "He also texts her to remind her to study and do her homework! If I did that she'd have a fit! :)"

I know what you mean. The know-it-all age is a tyrant that keeps cropping up with children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren. I  got it recently from one of the youngest of our generations, and thought, "Oh here it comes again." Well, leave them to their devices and it doesn't take long before they run, not walk, back to get some information to get them out of some problem they create for themselves. Not an "I told you so" person, I think, "I told you so!"

Well, it happens so often, I guess it is normal. Realize normal does not mean healthy or functional, it means it happens a lot. We all just hope they don't do any permanent damage to themselves, others, or the next generation.  

Glad to learn she is getting help with math and who know, she may grow to love it. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 30, 2013 at 1:24pm

Ruth, thank you so much for the information on Vitamin D. I do take a daily 1,000 IU and will include the dosage question with my cancer dietitian today. 

I recognize a lot of skepticism exists about scientific research, even as skeptics exist about whole and natural remedies and foods. Somewhere in there is true information. Sorting it all out presents a challenge. If there are research reports, based on double-blind studies by people who don't have an investment in the outcome, it is relatively easy to find truth in the fog. 

Monsanto is not a researcher worthy of reading, nor are the tobacco companies, or the pharmaceutical or the energy industry. I like to know where the conflicts exist and then go on the hunt. 

Thanks for the heads up. 

Cancer patients with high vitamin D levels live longer

"The patients were allocated to four groups, based on their vitamin D levels, ranging from high, medium-high, medium-low and low. When the researchers compared them, they found that the risk of dying from cancer was the highest for patients in the low-level group."

I'm upping my dosage unless given evidence that I should not. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 30, 2013 at 12:56pm

Part 2 
The problem with religion, it sends unhealthy life skills messages. You know the drill, "yield, submit, obey, seek out authority figures, there is one and only one way to think and be, live a role defined by gender, think in patriarchal terms of a hierarchy "god, man-male, female, children, and all creation is created for man to dominate. These massages are about as dysfunctional as I can even imagine. If you want to be healthy, refuse to listen to this nonsense. They are rubbish.

If you want to flourish, easy:
1. Recognize that you, an individual, exist through natural processes and you thrive best when you understand that. 
2. Know that you have work that must be done to sustain yourself. Even a robin has to get up in the morning and go looking for worms and has to supply worms to her babies. You are no different, you are responsible for you and you are part of the Net Of Life. 
3. Understand you are a social being; we need each other and flourish most beautifully when we have the support of our family and community. 
4. Count on your brain/mind to be your guide for moral and ethical development as well as learning the skills necessary to thrive in your environment. You do not have a guru who will rescue you or a prince charming coming over the hill, or a savior who will protect you or answer your prayers, or a boss who is healthy. In order to be healthy, you have to think for yourself, consult others who have your interests at heart, compare and contrast different options and make decisions about how to solve your particular problem. 
5. With a combination of thinking and acting you can create your own power, find your way through life and thrive. By combining awareness and respect for yourself, in a community with others, "I" becomes "we", and power multiplies. In fact, it multiplies exponentially. 

So, dear sweet heart, know the facts, know you live in an unusually healthy and functional family, challenge your boss with what is real, tell him how you feel when he speaks so disrespectfully to you, and tell him he needs to grow up. He is a man who has not developed beyond childish thinking. Organize your co-workers to confront him. Not only will you flourish, your co-workers will, and if the foolish man has any sense, he will know you tell the truth. He would benefit greatly by Landmark training. It is not magic or a cult. It is a place to learn life skills. That is all it is, all it ever was, and all it will ever be.

I love you dearly. Know you have a "Cloud of Witnesses" standing with you as you take on life's challenges.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 30, 2013 at 12:55pm

My granddaughter faces a difficult choice for her, a dysfunctional boss, unhealthy work environment and some who would stop her from developing her own power. Her mother and father, and family members all stand with her in support of her flourishing and  of the decisions she makes and I sent her this little message:

Now, as to "fierce", by some processes of nature, we are born, live and die. There are several ways to manage that life.
1. Seek out authority figures and follow them, including gurus. 
2. Seek out information from many sources, think about which have the highest probability of success in developing a functional life style. 
3. Pay attention to one's body and listen for messages, take action to bring about positive change. 
4. Use drugs, legal or illegal, to ease pain. 
5. Turn to religion to ease pain. 
6. Develop life skills and use them as tools. 
7. Attend and follow Landmark skills building classes. They are simply tools for living and flourishing. 
8. Whine. Beg. Plead. Give in. 



So, we observe there are many ways, healthy and unhealthy, to try to be successful and to ease the pain of living. 
Some work against health, some promote flourishing. 

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on May 30, 2013 at 11:47am

Joan, I woke up this morning from a dream about the benefits of vitamin D. Then I realized I'd never discussed it with you. I take 5,000 IU of vitamin D daily as a preventive, but it's also helpful for cancer recovery. I first learned about it from a physician friend who sent me a link to a professional symposium talk by Cedric F. Garland. Our cells are normally connected by tight junctions, through which cytoplasm actually flows from one cell to the next. Low vitamin D reduces the number of tight junctions, and when they're cut off every cell begins to function as a competitive individual instead of a good citizen. If a pro-growth mutation happens the isolated cell gets out of control. High dose vitamin D restores the number of tight junctions, so even mutated cells can calm down and begin to act like good citizens again. Here's the hype version.

Thanks for the info about Gene Roddenberry, sk8eycat. Now I admire him even more.

Cute cats, Steph.


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