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Ignorance is Bliss: Why Religious People Seem Happier Than the 'Nones'”.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by kathy: ky Aug 9. 4 Replies

“Highly Religious Volunteer More, Lie Less, and Claim to Be Happier”~ Houston Chronicle; “Strongly Religious People are Happier than Non-Religious”  ~ Christian Daily."The study determined that 40 percent of highly religious adults—defined as those…Continue

Tags: Nones, happiness, non-religiosity, religiosity, bliss

If you could rid the world of one thing, what would it be?

Started by Idaho Spud. Last reply by Jonathan Simeone Aug 5. 29 Replies

Today, I heard Seth Andrews talk about the question, "If you could rid the world of one thing, what would it be?"  My first thought was religion, but after a few seconds I decided it would be irrational or anti-scientific thinking.  That would take…Continue

Tags: anti-scientific, irrational

The Bourne Again Identity (Mr. Deity)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Aug 3. 3 Replies

There's a young man, unconscious, found tangled with the bushes which describe the edge of your property, late one evening.  Who is he?  Where did he come from?  These are the questions which confound Ward and Pam as they attempt to deal with a most…Continue

Tags: mystery, Bourne, Brian Dalton, Mr. Deity

Where The Buffalo Roam AGAIN - Allan Savory Institute

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W Jul 31. 3 Replies

Where The Buffalo Roam AGAIN - Allan Savory InstituteI have followed the Justin Rhodes family for many months and each videa is unique. this one is about their adventures in Colorado, and…Continue

Tags: restore, water, soils, bison, Rhodes

Yasmine Mohammed - Confessions of an Ex-Muslim (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jul 7. 6 Replies

Yasmine Mohammed is not your average ex-Muslim.  Not only did she get shut of Islam, she also managed to escape what was at one time the most notorious of radical Islamist organizations: Al Qaeda.  She has since documented the story of her apostasy…Continue

Tags: Islam, Al Qaeda, Yasmine Mohammed, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

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Comment by tom sarbeck on February 15, 2017 at 6:12am

Playful, Joan, not felonious.

I loved maps when I was a kid, especially those in  National Geographic. I saw South America and Africa and knew they had to have once been joined.

The word cleverly combines Greek pan for "all" and gaia for "earth".

But it's always written in something like "all of the continents were one super-continent called Pangaea."

You know that in scientific matters I am a compulsive truth teller; I would write " super-continent now called Pangaea."

BTW, despite what the Bangers among us say, I have no mental condition that requires meds.

BTW2. Would you recognize hemlock if the people you query were to offer you some?

Comment by Plinius on February 15, 2017 at 4:51am

Late, of course! I´m glad your surgery went well, Joan!

Comment by Chris on February 15, 2017 at 4:33am

For the most part Tom Metzger and other White Supremist groups in the NW were shut down and lost their property from a law suit.  The Southern Poverty Law Center does as good a job as possible keeping racial violence in check.

I don't know where it stand now in Idaho.

A Year of Living Dangerously  is a 73 page report from the Southern Poverty Law Center about continuing problems with extreem elements in the U.S.

Comment by Chris on February 15, 2017 at 4:10am

The Missoula Floods which formed the Columbia River Gorge is interesting geology. Bretz did a good job of figuring that out. It took years before the general population believed his analysis of the area.

Comment by Chris on February 15, 2017 at 3:59am

Oregon and Washington used to be connected to Asia.

A small town had a "One Room" School house near

John Day Fossle Beds

where after an elementary school student went on to college and realized that one of the fossles found when he was in elementary school was a fossleized banana.

Other fossiles from the area were found in Asia and no place else leading to the theory that the NW used to be connected with Asia.

Oddly a "Born Again" Christian with a geology background told me about Pangea.  I don't know how a fundamentalist xtian can reconcile his religious beliefs with science.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 15, 2017 at 1:46am

Tom, you are silly! You know who called (named) it Pangaea! How do we know? Look at the shapes of the continents and how they pulled apart. At the edges were flora and fauna that matched, even though they were hundreds or thousands of miles apart with a sea between them. Even the rock structure itself often matched across the ocean. Any first-year geology student learns these things. It is the uneducated who don't understand how the continents drifted and continue to drift. 

You know all this, Tom! Have you been taking your medications properly? You aren't thinking! Are you OK? 

Comment by tom sarbeck on February 15, 2017 at 1:34am
May I stir some mischief?

So many people tell us that super-continent was called Pangaea.

Who 500 million years ago called it that, or anything?
Comment by Joan Denoo on February 15, 2017 at 1:09am

Spud, I just read your question about my new living conditions. Northeastern Washington state and northern Idaho have been hotbeds for radical religious and political bodies for years.

White Nationalists, Christian Identity Movement, General Hate Groups, and those who feel they have been left out or overrun by "foreigners" gather in the mountains and valleys of this beautiful country. They come, build their homes, grow their food, gather for meetings of solidarity, and commit mischief if not crimes to get back at society. 

Along comes me, asking questions, writing articles, testing the waters. 

The partners that come into my family all have some religious and political differences with me. One granddaughter's partner is from a christian family of some strict denomination, the other granddaughter's partner comes from a Jehovah's Witness group, many of the neighbors and friends of the family are Mennonite. 

I am getting a lot of practice talking with people who think differently than I and who want to convince me with their rules and bible as their authority. I just keep asking questions: 

"Do you really believe ...?" or "Why are there so many wars between religious people?" or "How can you claim to love when there is so much hate-talk?" or "Do you think it is possible to be good without g-d?" or "Where do you get your authority?" or "How do you account for the ancient fossils in Gardner Cave? if the Earth is only 6,000 years old?"

The geology of the region has many features that stand out. On a mountain north of here is a cave, Gardner Cave, that was formed about "500 million years ago when all of the continents were one super-continent called Pangaea. During this period much of North America was covered by an ocean. When the sea creatures died, their shells, bones, and coral settled to the bottom, forming limestone ooze. This mud eventually turned into a rock called the Metaline Limestone. About 70 million years ago, as mountains were forming, this rock was folded and uplifted, and during this process, it developed cracks and voids. To form a limestone cave water must be present above the limestone as in a stream, rains or in this case mostly glaciers.

"Limestone will dissolve in acid, such as the acid formed when rainwater absorbs carbon dioxide, mostly from seeping through the soil. Even though carbonic or sulfuric acid is a weak solution, when it seeps into the ground and limestone over millions of years it will cause small cracks to enlarge as the limestone is carried away in solution. This process will enlarge the cracks and then produce larger and larger voids. If the source of water is a stream, it may disappear above ground and find an exit through the limestone downhill. The erosion of both the acids and water will carve out significant passages, vast caverns form."

I enjoy the banter. The people believe sincerely in their religious and political traditions. They are polite and civil and mystified by my thinking. They are great cooks; love potluck get-togethers, and are excellent storytellers. Their exaggerations are an art form! 

Comment by BenGee on February 15, 2017 at 12:38am


I quite agree with you on every point of your comment without exception.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on February 15, 2017 at 12:35am

Joan - you made this comment in another thread that's thankfully closed.

  • Do we want more math, physics, astronomy and electrical engineering and conflict or more care, compassion, commitment, humanities, and peace? 
  • Oh! by the way, some girls excel at math, physics, astronomy, and electrical engineering and some boys excel at care, compassion, commitment, and humanities. 

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