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The Most Hated Woman in America (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Gary S Apr 19. 7 Replies

Before Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty, before Dawkins or Dennett or Harris or even Hitchens, there was Madalyn Murray O'Hair.  In the midst of an America where Christianity was being flaunted as a defense against the godless communists of the Soviet…Continue

Tags: Frank Zindler, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Madalyn Murray O'Hair

Proud Dad is REALLY Proud Now!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Todd Williams Apr 12. 16 Replies

As some of you may or may not know, my daughter is a television news producer, currently working in Nashville, Tennessee.  Her assignment is the morning news, which means she blasts herself up at umpti-ump in the morning to organize and prepare a…Continue

Tags: Emmy, news, television, daughter, dad

attacking ideas (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 1 Reply

Attacking ideas is a considerable portion of what we as atheists do.  Why attack ideas?  Ideas earn attack when they don't serve people, not just us but those who adopt said ideas, mistakenly thinking that they have value when they don't.  Our…Continue

Tags: ideas, Islam, TheraminTrees

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 40 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

The Playboy Interview: Richard Dawkins

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 28. 16 Replies

I suppose it was the news that Playboy magazine was returning nudes to its pages after a year's hiatus that sufficiently perked my curiosity to check them out again.  I hadn't looked at Playboy since perhaps 2008, when I began to recognize that I…Continue

Tags: Richard Dawkins, Playboy

God's Annual Performance Review (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 19. 6 Replies

I don't know about you guys, but there wasn't a performance review I had in 30 years of field service that I didn't LOATHE.  It seems as though Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, is up for turning the tables on the person you would expect would…Continue

Tags: review, performance, god, American's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

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Comment by Daniel W on November 18, 2016 at 2:53pm

Joan, I might swear but not within earshot  :-)

Ning's recommendations -

1.  Have a fake ruler made with measurements that meet the specs.  Since the inspector borrowed my ruler, I can say I had the work done, give her the new ruler, and it all meets spec.  This is kind of a Chinese way to do.  Not going there.

2.  Forget the specs and the permit.  Cut a hole in the wall and run a hose to a portable propane tank, that we would just change every couple of months.  He actually wanted to do this at the outset.  Growing up in China, all of their gas cooking was done this way.  They hauled the propane tanks on their bicycles to have them filled.

3.  Call the county - someone - and complain.  That would not work, I'm not even going to try.

Joan, I'm tall enough, 5'11.  That makes me the shortest man on my father's side in at least 3 generations, maybe more.  The cabinets were to specification, it's just that the spec has changed.

Spud, the idea is that it reduces fire risk.  A whole inch, and not over the stove itself.  I think this helps the builders and contracters, because it means in theory they get to do more. 

Whatever, I'm headed to the tile place now to see if I can find matching tile for the slightly higher backsplash!  If not, then I'll add some kind of fancy tile edging trim.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 18, 2016 at 2:10pm

Daniel, what a horrid bit of news. You take the chore very calmly, no help to yell, swear, beat your head against the wall. It just doesn't help get the job done. I am glad to read you take it in stride as another adventure in life. 

Please don't let that stop you from taking all those actions as you sweat over the tasks. We can hear you if you need to vent. 

I don't know, but I assume you are not a tall man and those cabinets being lower was a bit of a help. That would be true for me. I can't read the third shelf of my cupboards and have to use a step ladder. 

Whatever you do, I know it will look fine!

Your feral cats do a good job for you! And your chickens take care of your kitchen food scraps. You have 24 hour a day help that is silent, mostly, and unpaid. That is the way to go!

 

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 18, 2016 at 12:00pm

Daniel, I would be very bummed.  I never could understand laws that seem to be of no value. 

But I'm glad some positives will come from it.

Comment by Daniel W on November 18, 2016 at 10:07am

Next kitchen project in what feels like a never-ending kitchen upgrade of my own doing.  We had to have  a propane gas line installed for the nice new gas stove.  That meant county inspector came - always an unwelcome, bad surprise.  This time she said the new cabinets are 1" too close to the counter top.  ONE inch.  The gas stove spec states cabinets need to be 18" above the counter, ours are 17".  These are not above the stove, they are adjacent, but that is not acceptible. I have no idea why that matters but she wont sign off to let us get propane gas unless I fix it.  So.. I have to remove all of the the cabinets on that side of the kitchen, take down the very heavy exhaust hood.  Then tear drywall from soffits, remove the insulation, shorten the soffit framing by 1 1/2", maybe 2", to be safe.  Un-wire the undercabinet lights & remove them.  Backsplash then needs to be higher, so pull off the top row, which is shortened, replace with an unshortened row - find matching stone tile somewhere.  Then re-install everything that I uninstall.  Very bummed two days ago, but now it's just another adventure.  In the end, the appearance should be no different from now, just subtle increase in height of the cabinets over the counter.  Maybe the countertops will be slightly brighter with 2" of more light, & I will quit hitting my bald head on the range hood which will be 2 inches higher. 

I bought a couple of tools to make it go better, a hacksaw to cut nails from behind the drywall, and a flat sided chisel to attempt removing backsplash stone without damaging drywall, I hope.  Maybe 2 weeks?  4 weeks?  Well see! 

There is a certain satisfaction that comes from a do-it-yourself life. 

Comment by Daniel W on November 18, 2016 at 9:36am

Joan the beaver pond is beautiful!

Randy, I get opossoms fairly often.  During the late summer they hang out in the grape arbor where they compete with birds for grapes.  My woodshed is home to a family of feral cats with kittens, very cute.  They must be eating local moles and voles and rabbits, keeping the small rodent populations down.

Comment by Randall Smith on November 18, 2016 at 7:21am

I've only heard (not seen) Sandhill cranes fly over once so far this fall. They're waiting for a northerly wind which we haven't had. This weekend promises that occurance.

I accidentally found a pair of oppossums huddled in a trash can in my garage. They didn't appreciate being evacuated! No, I didn't kill them. And they'll be back, I'm sure. I have many nesting places, especially in my wood piles.

Have a good, cheery weekend, all.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 18, 2016 at 12:31am

Spud, I'm glad you like the Homestead video; I do too. I feel much better today. Here is the link to to series

The Boss of the Swamp

I'm grateful for this group for helping me through the difficult day, yesterday.  The black cloud is gone. Thanks.

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 17, 2016 at 5:08pm

Joan, I like the Homestead Beaver Pond video.  

I see geese flying over my house all the time, and never tire of watching them.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 17, 2016 at 11:58am

OOPPSS the geese were heading south. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 17, 2016 at 11:55am

Ian, thank you for your comforting words. Knowing you, too, suffer a loss of a son reminds me that I am not the only parent to experience such a heartache. 

Pollyanna appears to have disappeared, perhaps she will return one day. Let me see if I can discover some good news. 

I heard, then saw a flock of geese heading north yesterday while I walked in my garden. This fellow reminds me of all the wonders that abound and he, too, is grateful. My city lot that is now a food forest has many new inhabitants. It is full of wildlife. 

 

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