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Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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11 "unanswerable" questions for atheists - answered (Aron Ra)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Jun 6. 1 Reply

If you spend any time around YouTube and have any history of looking at atheist material (or even theist material!), you will inevitably run into: "XX Questions Atheists Can't Answer."  These are occasionally followed by: "XX Questions Atheists…Continue

Tags: apologist, answer, questions, unanswerable, Aron Ra

worshipping narcissists (qualiasoup & theramintrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jun 3. 1 Reply

They're all around us: people who perceive the world as revolving around them and will go to considerable lengths to make it so: narcissists.  Such beings have been with humanity, I suspect, since humanity emerged from the gene pool.  Even worse,…Continue

Tags: narcissist, QualiaSoup, TheraminTrees

Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat May 2. 42 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

Tags: singing, lyrics, reclaimed, reclaiming, HumanLight

appropriating morality (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo May 1. 7 Replies

We've all heard the claim: "Human morality comes from god."  And we've all seen for ourselves what Yahweh's "morality" looks like, from condemnations of homosexuality and the treatment of women as chattel to inexplicable sanctions against the eating…Continue

Tags: morality, appropriating, TheraminTrees

Bible Belt Atheist (New York Times)

Started by Loren Miller Apr 19. 0 Replies

The following showed up in my YouTube feed this morning, and I decided to have a look.  Turns out, the New York Times has given us a reasonably even-handed look at a good friend of ours, being one Jerry DeWitt, former bible-thumper and now a pretty…Continue

Tags: Bible Belt, atheist, Jerry DeWitt

How would you respond?

Started by Christina Scribner. Last reply by Christina Scribner Apr 10. 5 Replies

So, this morning, I was at my local coffee shop as I am most weekdays between bus runs. I do the editing on my husband's books so I had my laptop with me. My wallpaper is a picture I found online sometime back of a double helix with the word atheist…Continue

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Comment by Idaho Spud on April 16, 2014 at 10:33am

I don't worship anything either, and didn't even when I was a believer.  Momonism didn't stress worship as much as other religions.  Besides that, my personality is that of a worshiper, brown-noser, yes-man, or flatterer.  I'm not even greatly impressed with most things.

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 16, 2014 at 10:12am

Felaine, thanks for the reference to filksongs.  Looks like some fun songs there.  In the Old Time Religion song, the verse that made me laugh-out-load was:

Shall we sing a verse for Venus,     
Of the Gods she is the meanest,      
Cause she bit me on my...elbow        
And it's good enough for me.      

But, I haven't been able to find My god's better than your god.

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 16, 2014 at 9:50am

I had another thought about plane safety.  If you fly very seldom like I do, and ride in a car often, then the chance of an accident in a car is probably thousands of time greater than in a plane.

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 16, 2014 at 9:47am

Carl, that's an interesting first plane ride video.  I was glad to see they enjoyed it, despite being scared at first.

I couldn't help notice one comment I hear a lot about a plane being more scary than a car.  Something to the effect that if your in a car crash, you're on the ground, but if something goes wrong in a plane, you're in the air.

I've never been afraid to fly, mainly because I know that you're much safer in a plane than a car.   Well, according to Wikipedia, a car is about 3 times safer per journey, but a plane is about 4 times safer per hour, and a whopping 60 times safer per mile.

Comment by Plinius on April 16, 2014 at 6:46am

Thanks for the video of the Dutch women, Carl, it's very nice!

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 15, 2014 at 11:47pm

Felaine, your English teach, Miss Esther Weinstock, was a treasure indeed. Some teachers just have a spark that brings young minds to life. You and I were blessed with having such teachers. 

I was hard on my students, whether the college classes, or the work I did in poverty projects. No one gains by not thinking and by accepting easy answers. Figuring out ways to get a lazy mind to do some work is a challenge, but the rewards great! 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 15, 2014 at 11:39pm

Carl, excellent question. It goes on the list.

"Is god doing a good job?" 

Googling this questions, this came up: 

Poll: 52 percent approve of God’s job performance

I would surely like to know who they polled? 

"God’s job performance has trouble measuring up to many Americans' expectations, according to a poll by Public Policy Polling, a Democratic firm based in North Carolina.

"Only 52 percent of Americans approve of God’s job performance, the survey found, though just 9 percent disapprove."

"'voters give God its best rating on creating the universe, 71-5,' the polling report said. 'They also approve of its handling of the animal kingdom 56-11, and even its handling of natural disasters 50-13.'"

I would guess a much higher number disapprove of god's performance, but then, what do I know about public trends? I am totally out of step with so many people on so many dimensions. 

I've been watching some debates, theists vs. atheists, and very few of the atheists cite biblical and historical events of murder, bashing babies heads against stone walls or stabbing them with a sword. I keep prompting the video to take on that tactic. The words are in the bible of god telling the Israelites how to murder, plunder and rape. 

I ran across these titles that gave me chills. How to defend one's religious faith; how one should think; cultural stories that shape lives: 

* Faith has its reasons: Integrative approaches to defending the christian faith, Kenneth Boa. 

*The christian mind: How should a christian think, Harry Blamires. 

*Hidden worldviews: Eight cultural stories that shape our lives, Steve Wilkens. 

Well, I think we have good reason to point out the reasons faith in delusions is unhealthy; that being told the shoulda-oughta-gotta thinking mentality is fascist; and we can develop a culture based on reason, cooperation, and non-exploitation of the Earth and it's resources. 

This is going to be fun! 

Comment by sk8eycat on April 15, 2014 at 11:35pm

The Science Fiction filksinging community makes up song parodies using almost anything.  Another is based on "that Old-Time religion"....

It was good enough for Dagon
That conservative old Pagan
Who sill votes for Ronald Reagan.
So it's good enough for me.

I was at a Worldcon in 1984 at the Anaheim Hilton (next to Disneyland), and some drunken surfers crashed a huge roomful of us who were singing that song at the time.  All they heard was the melody, and thought we were jeebus-freaks (they were having their own counter-convention at a hotel across the street from our hotel), and got really disruptive.  A bunch of guys dressed as Klingons booted them out.

I miss going to conventions, but can't afford hotel expenses anymore.  FFRF is having their fall convention in Los Angeles this year...Waaaahhhh!  I wanna GO!  But $170 a night is a bit much.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 15, 2014 at 11:06pm

Felaine, "My god's better 'cause she has eighteen tits" may be a reference to that wonderful myth of Artemis that goes back as far as the 8th century BCE. Her statue at Ephesus dates from the 1st century CE. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 15, 2014 at 11:03pm

Carl, a delightful film. they obviously enjoyed the adventure. 

 

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