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Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Yasmine Mohammed - Confessions of an Ex-Muslim (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jul 7. 6 Replies

Yasmine Mohammed is not your average ex-Muslim.  Not only did she get shut of Islam, she also managed to escape what was at one time the most notorious of radical Islamist organizations: Al Qaeda.  She has since documented the story of her apostasy…Continue

Tags: Islam, Al Qaeda, Yasmine Mohammed, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Ignorance is Bliss: Why Religious People Seem Happier Than the 'Nones'”.

Started by Joan Denoo Jul 6. 0 Replies

“Highly Religious Volunteer More, Lie Less, and Claim to Be Happier”~ Houston Chronicle; “Strongly Religious People are Happier than Non-Religious”  ~ Christian Daily."The study determined that 40 percent of highly religious adults—defined as those…Continue

Tags: Nones, happiness, non-religiosity, religiosity, bliss

Afrodisiacs – African Aphrodisiacs

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jun 26. 4 Replies

Am I so old and not know the definition of aphrodisiac, and its historical definition being based on Aphrodite, that her name came from the African drugs that Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans used for sexual enhancement? Dhu!  Aphrodite, ancient Greek…Continue

Tags: Africa, Lady, Victorian

Degrees of Doubt: The Claims and Credentials of Ravi Zacharias (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris May 17. 1 Reply

Anyone here ever run onto an apologist by the name of Ravi Zacharias?  I've seen his name dropped multiple times on YouTube as supposedly being THE ONE APOLOGIST that no atheist wants to cross swords with, because of his facility with christian…Continue

Tags: Ravi Zacharias, Steve Baughman, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Most Hated Woman in America (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Gary S Apr 19. 7 Replies

Before Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty, before Dawkins or Dennett or Harris or even Hitchens, there was Madalyn Murray O'Hair.  In the midst of an America where Christianity was being flaunted as a defense against the godless communists of the Soviet…Continue

Tags: Frank Zindler, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Madalyn Murray O'Hair

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Comment by Chris on June 28, 2017 at 2:52am

Randall,

Community Supported Farms.

When I lived in Oregon some farmers without much land made corn mases and hosted harvest festivals that included pumkin patch rides.  Many aren't open to being hosts for such events. 

Around here some farmers without much land build nurseries to grow starter (pack)  veggies and fruit for suburbanites. Marketable fruit and veggies are sold at farmers markets, to restaraunts, and local stores. I'm told the Wall-Mart  in town purchases produce from local farmers.

Anothers have community supported farms where locals 'contract'  to  receive fresh produce as it become available.

A friend is a partner in a farm Cooperative. She gets produce as its ready for harvest.  She's a partner in the co-op. As a group they help plan menus for the produce for members. 

As a single person fresh veggies often go to waste before I can eat it.

I heard of a local group called Plowshares.  Looking it up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plowshares_movement

the internet Plowshares movement sounds different than the local group I heard about - though don't know.

My imagination of plowshares is if one has available land with people willing to help plant edibles to share with schools, foodbanks and others as a not for profit it would be better than a suburban manicured lawn. 

Manicured laws in suburbia is a waste of water and land.  Around here some people have manicured front yards drenched with fertilizer and weed killer that is taken care of by 'landscapers' that trim and leaf blow it two or more times a month.   It seems to be a waste of water and other resources.

Comment by Thomas Murray on June 27, 2017 at 7:20pm

National Geographic,  issue February 2017 have three interesting articles , "A Widows Life" which is about women who lost their husbands to war and the continuing suffering they endure.  The other two articles are "Wildcats" and "Birth of Booze"

This magazine issue is a good read.

Comment by Thomas Murray on June 27, 2017 at 7:03pm

Joan,

I like your explanation of the difference between whining and describing. I will pass this to my kids.

Comment by k.h. ky on June 26, 2017 at 3:47pm
Joan, your article reminds me of a new comedy/educational show with W.Kamau Bell titled "The United Shades of America". He visits different areas in the US and discusses their economy and way of life. He was in the Appalachians, in Beattyville KY, on the last show discussing the coal industry and loss of jobs. Beattyville has the dubious honor of being the poorest town in the USA. It was one of his better shows. I highly recommend it.
Comment by Joan Denoo on June 26, 2017 at 1:21pm

"Economists have empirically proven five Kondratieff cycles since the late 18th century 

1). The first long cycle was triggered by the invention of the steam engine and fundamental innovations in textile manufacturing (the fly-shuttle loom, the spinning mule, the spinning jenny).

2). The railroad and the Bessemer converter led the economy to the second Kondratieff. It was the great era of big steel."

3). "The third Kondratieff was the first long cycle that was carried by the prac­tical application of scientific knowledge. The discovery of the electro-dyna­mic principle by Werner von Siemens enabled the conversion of mecha­nical energy into electrical energy, and the findings on the composition of matter through quantum physics imparted the knowledge of manipulating material – the foundation of modern chemistry. The third Kondratieff ended with the global economic crisis of the late 1920s and early 1930s. "The Great Depression!"

4). The new upswing, the fourth Kondratieff, came with the automobile and petrochemistry. It marked the height of the industrial society and brought mass transit to the streets and to the air. The fourth Kondratieff drew to a close with the massive crude oil price increases by OPEC in the late 1970s.

5). The fifth Kondratieff began in the early 1950s. Its driving force originated in computer-based information technology. With constantly increasing speed, information technology permeated all areas of society and turned the world into a global village of information. During the fifth Kondratieff, the industrial society changed over into an information society. Since then, economic growth is primarily defined as growth in the information sector. The fifth Kondratieff ended at the turn of this century. At the same time it ended, the sixth Kondratieff cycle began. 

6). The carrier of this new Kondratieff cycle will be health in a holistic sense.  At first glance, this statement may come as a surprise. Can health expenditures, which are economically classified as pure expenses and as something negative that should thus be avoided if possible, take on the role of a locomotive for growth and employment in the future?

"At this point, we should recall the results of modern growth theory. Machi­nery, capital or jobs are only ostensibly the most important sources for economic growth. The main source for economy growth is productivity pro­gress. The sixth Kondra­tieff is carried by an improved productivity in handling health (a more detailed description of the sixth Kondratieff can be found on this homepage).

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 26, 2017 at 1:15pm

Ian, your daughter who encountered Marxism in school has the opportunity to think about options. We know capitalism is unstable. It has frequent recessions and regular depressions. 

"Economists have empirically proven five Kondratieff cycles since the late 18th century."

"There is no uniform progression in the market economy; in fact, upturns and downturns regularly take turns with each other. The short business cycles that last approximately three years are called Kitchin cycles; the medium-term ones lasting between 7 to 11 years are called Juglar cycles. However, there are also long economic cycles that last between 40 to 60 years. They are named Kondratieff cycles after their discoverer Nikolai Kondra­tieff. The triggers for these long waves are groundbreaking inventions that are called basic innovations.

As my former mentor stated, "the ball bearing has been replaced by the computer chip."

~ Ed Lindaman

I recommend you read the entire article. It offers insights into what happens and why. 

In the meantime, I am prepared for The Greatest Depression Yet.

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 26, 2017 at 12:45pm

Daniel, my eldest great-grandson just graduated high school and wants to go into the army. I was horrified! The US army takes our young men and women and sends them off to some country we can't even find on a map and uses them for fodder for the petroleum industry; if war breaks out, our young people already are in the middle of it. 

Your description of your experience makes sense to me. I will talk to him today to let him know I will support his decision. 

If he does enlist, you can expect to read my lament. He knows how I feel and I support his decision. 

Comment by Ian Mason on June 26, 2017 at 12:01pm

Joan, Silkeborg is close to 'Himmelbjerg', Denmark's highest mountain at 150 metres (500 feet). Nothing in Denmark is much above sea level.

Comment by Randall Smith on June 26, 2017 at 10:22am

Joan, I hear you! My children have trouble listening to "their old man". Actually, I don't have to tell them anything--not to do something, etc.--but they know me and how I feel. Then later, "you were right, Dad".

I handed over the check last night (to my farm kids) with all my concerns and suggestions. They actually listened and agreed! I'm still optimistic that they'll turn the corner. From now on, they're going to have to make it on their own. Thanks, all, for your comments.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 26, 2017 at 5:56am

Sorry about the farm problems Randy.  I imagine the youngsters are more stressed about it than you.  Hope to hear good news one of these days.

 

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