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Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Issues Atheist, Feminist, GLBTQ, Climate Change

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by BenGee on Saturday. 3 Replies

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The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly on Thursday. 15 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 17. 2 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

A moment to relax and see the Earth from space; some how this comforts me.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev Oct 16. 3 Replies

All the squabbles and struggles that I have do not compare with those of some others on this great planet. There are no boundary lines, no political arguments, no up or no down. What is, is. For right now, the scenes offer tranquility. Just the…Continue

Tags: and, wonder, awe, of, space

His Dark Materials and the Catholic Church

Started by Tonya R. Wheeler. Last reply by Plinius Oct 16. 27 Replies

I recently watched the movie, "The Golden Compass" and since I could not find the sequels, I read the books. I enjoyed them, and I will be reading the first one, Northern Lights, starting tomorrow, since it just arrived via inter-library…Continue

Tags: Fantasy, Catholic, Religion, Atheist, Pullman

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 29. 39 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

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Comment by sk8eycat on April 13, 2013 at 1:13pm

Oh!  I'm laughing at Snack Cat and Argument Cat!  Thank you both!

To Chris and Joseph...Dr. Liz said that Prednizone might help reduce some of the swelling because the tumor is pushing his esophagus and trachea to the side, and eventually he'll have difficulty swallowing.  We're trying to delay that. I did not ask her "how long?" when we were in the clinic...I don't think I want to know just yet.

And, yes, it's "people Prednizone."  (A very tiny dose, 0.01ml once a day)  Most all meds that vets use on mammals are the same stuff we use.  This is nasty, but all pharmaceutical companies test new drugs on animals before they ever test them on humans.  The ironic thing is that the one family of drugs that helps so many humans (myself included) is useless or lethal for dogs and cats...simple pain meds. Especially aspirin.

In the meantime, I'm going to be sans computer till the 26th.  I'll try to check in with you all before I leave tomorrow. (Sue is picking me up around 6 or 7 PM, and we're having dinner at a little hole-in-the-wall that serves the most dee-lishus barbecued pork chow fun I've ever tasted. I NEED a treat!)

I've been thinking about buying some alphabet pasta ever since I saw that black cat...tee-hee!  That really is such a great remark to use on the doorbell ringers.

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 13, 2013 at 11:54am

Melinda, I love the look on Snack Cat's face.

Argument Cat is funny FA.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 13, 2013 at 10:58am

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 13, 2013 at 7:26am

G-Cat, thanks for the Logical Fallacy website.  I try to read about fallacies often so I can avoid making them in my arguments.  

It would also be a good thing if I could remember their names, but that's tough.

However, I'm always pleased to see that I recognize a lot of the fallacies and don't make them myself, even though I can't give them a name.

Comment by Grinning Cat on April 13, 2013 at 4:53am

In Ex-Adventists, Jen Phoenix shares an "awesome" website listing and explaining logical fallacies:

It turns out arguments for belief in God are well represented in the examples! There's also a bad argument or two for nonbelief -- but we shouldn't forget the "fallacist's fallacy": an unsound argument might have a conclusion that's true for other reasons. An example would be figuring that 16/64 = 16/64 = 1/4.

The page on Appeal to Consequences has a revealing slip that made me smile:

Both of these arguments are fallacious because ... all they do is appeal to the consequences of belief in God.... Neither argument, though, provides any evidence for Santa's existence.

And some pure silliness that exemplifies the "post hoc" fallacy:

(1) Most people who are read the last rites die shortly afterwards.
(2) Priests are going around killing people with magic words!

Comment by Grinning Cat on April 13, 2013 at 4:07am

"Give peas a chance" -- I love it, Ruth!

Joan, I'm glad you read and appreciated my comment on humanistic Jewish views of the Sabbath. The idea of a day of rest for ordinary working people was a huge social reform!

Patricia, I saw an interview of Grumpy Cat (a.k.a. Tardar Sauce) and one of her humans. Yes, Grumpy Cat is a girl, and she's actually a very sweet and sociable kitty who was purring when the interviewer held her.

Thanks Melinda, Joan, and Ruth, I'm glad you like my visual response. Most things are better with cats! I'm lucky to have "inherited" a computer with Photoshop -- about half of which is over my head -- but you can do such things with many image editing programs, including the free "GIMP". I used the magic wand to "erase" the white dots, leaving them as transparent holes, then put the cat on a layer underneath.

(Photoshop geeks: I used a layer mask. Before using the magic wand, I'd tried selecting the dots all at once based on gray level, but that either got light bits of background or left jagged, aliased edges. If there were hundreds of dots I'd have worked out a more automatic method.)

Comment by Ian Mason on April 13, 2013 at 3:52am

Sorry to hear about Jerry, Felaine. I'm sure you'll be a great care giver for him.

I agree that it's a good thing to be science literate but I just can't manage it. Even if I do understand explanations I forget them again, sometimes within minutes. If numbers are involved then it's a waste of everyone's time. By the time the explanation's come to an end I've forgotten the beginning. Just let me revel in the arts and I'm happy.

Comment by Plinius on April 13, 2013 at 1:01am

Prednizone when it's cancer? A few years ago my vet told me that prednizone can also boost cancer growth. Thinking of you and Jerry, Sk8eycat!

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on April 13, 2013 at 12:14am

GrinningCat, that's great! Quite an improvement.

Sorry to hear about your cat Jerry, sk8eycat. We're with you. Spoil him. Great Big Bird. Finally relevant to today.

Thanks for the video, Joan. I like "If you're scientifically literate,the world looks very different to you." This is such a profound and pervasive difference. One which I routinely failed to communicate to my students, despite my best efforts. "Science is the poetry of reality." is nice too.

LOL, Steph. Grumplestilksin! Give peas a chance! Thanks for cheering up my bedtime.

Booklover, sorry to hear about Dale's brush phobia. Have you tried one of those gloves with little rubbery things?

Hugs to all.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 12, 2013 at 10:48pm
Grinning Cat, I like your comment, "Many humanistic Jews, while rejecting "god said so" or "the rabbis said so", find value in the Sabbath as a time to "rest" from trying to dominate and control the world and other people, and appreciate who and what we have. It also asserts that time off isn't just for the rich, and that our dignity is based on more than our jobs and paychecks."

Sounds good to me.

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