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Issues Atheist, Feminist, GLBTQ, Climate Change

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by BenGee on Saturday. 3 Replies

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The Whole Bible in 30 Seconds (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Randy Hatly Oct 20. 15 Replies

Ever decide that you wanted to read the whole bible, cover to cover, only to realize half-way through Deuteronomy that the darn thing is industrial-strength BORING?!?  Well, never fear!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, has done the Cliff's…Continue

Tags: bible, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

punishing doubt (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Oct 17. 2 Replies

If you are associated with religion and especially a fundamentalist religion, doubt is intolerable.  Certainty, however it may be achieved or imposed, becomes a necessary element, especially considering the utter dearth of any form of evidence or…Continue

Tags: religion, TheraminTrees, punish, doubt

A moment to relax and see the Earth from space; some how this comforts me.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Qiana-Maieev Oct 16. 3 Replies

All the squabbles and struggles that I have do not compare with those of some others on this great planet. There are no boundary lines, no political arguments, no up or no down. What is, is. For right now, the scenes offer tranquility. Just the…Continue

Tags: and, wonder, awe, of, space

His Dark Materials and the Catholic Church

Started by Tonya R. Wheeler. Last reply by Plinius Oct 16. 27 Replies

I recently watched the movie, "The Golden Compass" and since I could not find the sequels, I read the books. I enjoyed them, and I will be reading the first one, Northern Lights, starting tomorrow, since it just arrived via inter-library…Continue

Tags: Fantasy, Catholic, Religion, Atheist, Pullman

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 29. 39 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

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Comment by Idaho Spud on March 23, 2013 at 9:20am

Ruth, does part of the Memetic Evolution set that is outside of US mean that other animals have memes also?

Comment by Plinius on March 23, 2013 at 3:01am

Nice that you're back, Ian! It's hard work, taking care of your elder family and making the care-homes and other instititions do what they should do.  

Comment by Ian Mason on March 23, 2013 at 12:02am

Got back from England late last night  and trying to catch up.

Good luck with Jerry, Sk8eycat.

Joan; one of the best books on memes is "The Meme Machine" by Susan Blackmore but that's also an academic tome.

Language: euphamisms must be one of America's largest exports. Shakespeare could do great, new things with English but most advertising copywrighters aren't him.

Situation in England: Stepmum now out of intensive care but still very ill. The diagnosis is COPD, a combination of chronic bronchitis and emphysemia. If/when she pulls through, the future will be care home and oxygen bottle and the possibilty that the next cold or flu will kill her.

Mum. Had a meeting with her, social worker and one of the care-home staff. Most of the talk seemed to be at cross purposes. The social worker clearly wanted Mum where ever the cost was lowest, the care-home worker seemed determined to play down any problem and we seemed condemned to the role of ungrateful children. We were aware that it was one of Mum's "good" days, where she could put up a good front. Her stay at the home was extended until December, however but the clinical assesment won't start for at least 2-3 months. Very frustrating.

It was nice, though, to have a couple of days with my brother and his family, arthritic dog and haughty cat. Will be going back again in 12 days time and taking my daughter with me. If there's no medical crisis we'll be going to the theatre to see Rowan Atkinson in a comedy.

It's nice to be back among you.

Comment by sk8eycat on March 22, 2013 at 10:02pm

Patricia, There are a couple of local organizations that give limited grants for veterinary bills (usually for surgery) to qualified low-income people; I'm taking my 2012 Social Security 1099 form with me when I do take Jerry in. The vet has to apply for the grant, not the pet owner. 

One was started by a vet that I took my cats (and one big dog who was a pet-sitting client) to...I don't know if he's still involved with the day-to-day business of the org (he had to retire from DVM work when he ruined his shoulder lifting a dog onto the exam table), but he is/was one of the sweetest, funniest men I've ever met anywhere, anytime.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 22, 2013 at 8:37pm

sk8eycat, you send very good news! Thankfully, fear of a cat fight unsettled him, and would unsettle me to. Yes, we lose country space to urban and suburban development. It grew so fast; where orchards and strawberry patches and little farms existed have become homes and pavement. It surely has to stop at some point. We built on all the excellent farmland and the remaining land is either rocky mountains or desertified land. 

I like your suggestion, Patricia, about SPCA. 

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on March 22, 2013 at 8:34pm

Joan, getting a feel for memetics has a lot to do with giving up the idea we're in complete control. We tend to think we create words, poems, ideas, songs, and inventions. While that's true in on sense, there's another sense in which words, poems, ideas, songs and inventions that we've learned from one another also created us - in evolutionary terms.

Comment by sk8eycat on March 22, 2013 at 3:25pm

Joan, Jerry is behaving normally today...woke me up, demanded to be fed, and then took an extended nap in a patch of sunshine (which has moved on, but he's still asleep in the same spot).  I guess all the crouching, and sticking closer than usual to me last night was due to a loud and long cat fight outside.  Both cats were acting spooky long after the outdoor toms took their disagreement elsewhere.

S'peculiar, we haven't been bothered by outdoor cats in years...due to the influx of coyotes, I'm afraid.  We're about a mile from where the real hills begin, but developers keep building higher and higher up there, and totally destroying not only coyote habitat, but that of their normal prey. 

THEN the idiots who buy those tacky McMansions in the hills complain when their pets are killed by predators.  (There are pumas and bobcats up there, too.)

This used to be a nice little town...

Comment by Grinning Cat on March 22, 2013 at 2:57pm

Sk8ey, I wish I were within driving distance to help!

The discussion of un/clear writing reminds me of the quote attributed to Albert Einstein: "Things should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler."

My pet peeve among manipulative commercial euphemisms is real estate agents buying and selling "homes". A home is someplace you actually live, that you've settled into, that's emotionally yours. (And, for some of us, that you share with a furry friend or two!) An empty place is a house (or a townhouse or condo).

And Booklover, you're right: why can't I walk into a Target and help myself to a meal, if I'm a "guest" there?

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 22, 2013 at 2:46pm

Whining is OK  sk8eycat, it is the necessary first step in problem solving. It becomes dysfunctional when that is all one does about a problem. Sometimes whining is the only thing one can do, just don't expect it to change anything. 

I am sorry to learn Hairy Jerry is not springing back to normal activity. 

Comment by sk8eycat on March 22, 2013 at 2:40pm

TFA: When I worked for JCPenney Advertising in the early 1980s, I was a "Research Associate." Glorified file clerk; we dug up information, photos, and mdse samples for photography for the Copy and Art departments.  Bottom of the totem pole, with no chance for advancement.  We did get stock shares after being there a year or two...and group medical insurance was $7.80 a month in those days...before HMOs.  It was actually a pretty good company to work for, except when the New York brass came to LA to check on us, and the buyers in another section of the building...the usual boring "meeting," which was nothing but a pep talk. I had the impression from their attitude that they thought we weren't to be trusted with sharp objects.

About Jerry...I haven't been able to get him to the vet yet...I ned to draw $$$ out of a CD first, and that has to be done in person, which means taking taxis since I quit driving more than a year ago.  The whole thing freaks me out so much that I can't sleep, pull myself together, and get it all done. Anything to do with money freaks me out. Makes me afraid to leave the house; I just want to crawl into a hole, and pull it in after me. 

I really need somebody to drag me out of here and drive me to two different banks, and then the vet.  All my friends that I could have called on for help have retired and moved out of the state. Southern California is just too expensive for retirees..unless they're filthy rich. (Can't sell the house now because we have a tiny reverse mortgage on it...wish we'd done it five or six years ago, but my sister would never stand for it, and she's co-owner according to mother's trust deed.)

Oh, no!  I'm whining again.  sorry.  I need to straighten up my act.  FAST!

Joan, I don't think my occasional "sk8eycaticisms" would fill even a small pamphlet, but thank you.  (Years and years ago, before email, I was exchanging notes with Marion Zimmer Bradley about a possible silly short story concerning an ice show that gets stranded on her fictional planet, Darkover.  Sort of a "coals to Newcastle" plot [on Darkover it only snows at night... in the summer].  Of course it was unpublishable, but she enjoyed communicating with her fans, and encouraged us to play in her "yard.")


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